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Have you installed Linux on a Microsoft Surface Pro? If so, what was your experience?

I’m looking for a cheap and portable tablet that I can use for writing. Microsoft Surface Pro tablets, at least around the gen 4 models, are rather cheap to buy used, and they seem decently well made. Naturally, were I to buy one, I would have to install Linux onto it.

I’ve been peripherally aware of the Linux Surface project for some time now. I looked at it recently, after having not for some time, and it seems that they have really made good progress compared to what I remember, and it’s making me much more interested in trying to install Linux on a Surface Pro.

Having never owned a Surface Pro, I’m not sure which models are the most reliable and sturdy. I’m not looking for something that’s the flashiest; I want something that works well. I want something pragmatic — something akin to the idea of an older era of Thinkpad (eg T460). I want a pen with low input delay and good accuracy, reliable and responsive touch controls, and a decent display. I was thinking the Surface Pro 4 might be a good choice, but it’s hard to know as there aren’t many videos out there of people installing Linux on them, so I’m wondering what your experience has been with Microsoft Surface Pro’s and installing Linux on one.

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Molten_Moron ,

I’ve installed Mint on a 6 recently. Setting up the boot settings was a minor hassle, but everything else was very smooth. Definitely recommend the linux-surface kernel.

JCSpark ,
@JCSpark@lemmy.ca avatar

I set up a 6 as well, and it works great except for the camera. Looks like it’s a piece of hardware with a specific driver needed. There’s an open source project to support this, but it’s not often updated, from what I can tell.

e0qdk ,
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I tried booting an old Surface off a USB stick with stock Ubuntu once – probably either 20.04 or 22.04. (I tried this in June 2022 but didn’t make a note of the versions in my journal, unfortunately.) I was able to get it to boot, but I couldn’t get touch/pen controls working so I decided against replacing the OS. I didn’t have enough enthusiasm to bother experimenting with it further – I assume it probably needed the custom kernel.

data1701d ,
@data1701d@startrek.website avatar

I don’t know about older Surfaces, but for me in a nutshell, H-E-Double hockey sticks on my 1st gen Surface Go. Only install Linux on a Surface if you already own one.

More in-depth, it was usable - it was my main personal on-the-go device for a couple of years. I’d had it since before I used Linux. On mainline, the main stuff worked. With the Linux-Surface kernel, I could get the cameras working. It was always very janky (you had to bridge stuff through GStreamer or some other weird crap rather than using it directly. Don’t remember the specifics), but it worked.

Another annoyance was a hardware issue with the keyboard when it was in your lap: since the keyboard wasn’t very rigid, it would bend a bit while typing or placing your hand on the palm rest, making unwanted mouse clicks

My big problem with the Surface Go, though, was I had chronic issues with power profiles. It never went to sleep quite right, so after closing it a few times, the system would begin to get unstable and I’d just have to do a reboot.

After my initramfs got borked on that during the time_t64 transition (my fault, not the hardware’s; I use Debian Testing and an apt update went awry), I didn’t feel like going back and fixing it, as I was planning on replacing this device with the Thinkpad I write this on anyway.

Ultimately, my opinion (again, just based on using the Go 1, which is a bit newer than the Pro 4) is that it isn’t the best idea. Considering Pro 4s are not expensive on eBay, trying it isn’t the worst idea, but I feel like it’s not worth it, an unfortunate truth considering Surfaces are such unique devices. This isn’t a cheap alternative (the CPU’s not the best from what I can tell), but the Surface fan in me finds the StarLabs StarFighter 12.5-inch enticing considering it’s both very Surface-like and Linux-friendly.

As you want cheap, you might be able to find something to throw LineageOS or postMarketOS on. Honestly, my question for you is how much do you need a tablet specifically? Could a small laptop do?

pech ,

I used Fedora with the linux-surface kernel on a Surface Book 1, and everything pretty much worked out of the box. I bought it used on eBay and the battery in the tablet portion was pretty degraded, so I don’t know if it impacted performance, but it could be a little clunky at times.

It was my computer in exile while our house was being renovated after some water damage and I was able to run prusa slicer on of for my mini. I didn’t try a pen with it, but the touch controls worked with the custom kernel.

Eventually, I tried Aurora OS which is an immutable fedora distro with the surface kernel loaded by default and performance was about the same. Now I have it on cachyOS which needed the Ethernet cable installed so I could get the Marvell firmware drivers for WiFi, but it was much snappier. That’s an arch based distro, so I could load the surface kernel for touch driver stuff but you lose out on some of the more advanced kernel stuff that group is pushing.

Overall, I’ve been pleased with the experience. I didn’t have a surface device before, but when I heard about the linux-surface project, I had to try it.

just_another_person ,

It’ll work fine, but there are still proprietary driver issues for certain things. It’s not a 1:1 comparison, but it’ll work just fine.

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