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stuckgum ,

Some time ago I managed to sell my 3070 ti and buy a brand new RX 6800 for the same money. 99% of my desktop issues are now gone. Seriously, if you don’t need CUDA, don’t bother… Get rid of Nvidia it is not worth the hassle

ulkesh ,
@ulkesh@beehaw.org avatar

I effectively did the same. While I’m happy NVIDIA is finally got their heads out of their butts and are acquiescing to this, it’s going to still be years before it’s on the same level as radeon in terms of stability and the just works factor.

PseudoSpock ,
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It’s not NVidia’s fault. Never has been. It was a religious war over licensing of the driver.

PseudoSpock ,
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That would be giving into the Linux kernel and wayland driver bigots who set out to destroy NVidia on Linux, simply because of the driver’s license. Linus, the kernel dev team, and wayland devs sought to break NVidia at every turn. A company that provided us with the best graphics cards on Linux for over a decade, because they couldn’t get in and mess with NVidia’s code and steal their secrets from their drivers. Don’t give into to that level of zealotry. If anything, NVidia and their users should sue Linus and all the wayland devs for the years of crap they’ve pulled. All over a license. I love Linux, and am forever indebted to Linus for starting it… but this zealotry over licensing is why GNU never got off the ground itself; and they should be spanked for what they did to us. Wayland devs especially, they should be banned from opensource dev work forever and crippled financially for the crime they’ve committed.

dan , (edited )
@dan@upvote.au avatar

AMD used to have the same issue - their drivers were proprietary and buggy (anyone remember fglrx?). The difference is that they did something about it. Their modern drivers are open-source and mainlined so it’s easy for anyone to work on them. New kernel display/GPU features always come to AMD first, because the kernel developers working on the new feature can just add it to the AMD driver themselves.

Nvidia have open-source drivers now, but they’re still out of tree (so they’ll always lag behind the kernel) and AFAIK they have no plains to merge them into the kernel.

I appreciate Nvidia’s efforts, and their newer drivers are much better than older ones (especially now that they support explicit sync), but they’re just not as good as AMD’s.

PseudoSpock ,
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Could have been, if Linux kernel devs and wayland devs weren’t trying to break it all the time.

baru ,

So instead of accepting that the driver should be GPL and part of the kernel, you turn things around and pretend the development of the kernel is the way that it is because of a conspiracy against Nvidia?

The bit regarding Wayland doesn’t make sense, no idea what you’re getting at. Though maybe you don’t follow Linux developments?

Supermariofan67 ,

Looks like the birdie has escaped phoronix…

In the small chance that this comment is serious, Nvidia is found this because the corporate server-based customers need the ability to troubleshoot and debug the driver.

The actual trade secrets are being moved into the proprietary firmware blob and out of the driver.

LeFantome ,

Is it that people don’t mind sounding like morons in public or that they think everybody else is stupid enough to fall for their nonsense? I always wonder when I read something like this.

furzegulo ,

sadly this beta seems to be pretty broken, at least on my setup with 4070tis. i cannot even boot to plasma with the open-dkms and with the propietary one plasma is pretty glitchy, so i reverted back to 555.

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Lols. :)

Nvidia programmers strike again…

penquin ,

Still went all AMD when I built my PC a couple of months ago. Plug and play is what it was, plug and play. Nvidia won’t get any money from me until all their shit is open source.

federino OP ,

I wish I could do this, but where I live I just can’t find a laptop with a good amd gpu (I live in Brazil), so I’m locked to nvidia :/

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