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1984 ,
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I think both are fine for beginners. Both are easy to use and can be good looking.

ReeSilva ,
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Gnome if you come from MacOS, KDE if you come from Windows. But, for a beginner, I think that highly customized to be Windows-like Zorin OS or Linux Mint with Cinnamon would be better choices.

tom42 ,
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A question with no right answer, because it is a matter of taste and habits.

Both are very much sophisticated desktop environments which very useful defaults. Neither Gnome nor Plasma are too complicated for beginners and can be customized easily. If you want to you can go very deep into the customization too.

Grangle1 ,

GNOME is more different from Windows, which means that users will have to put more effort in to get used to the UI, but it doesn’t have as many complicated settings or customizability for EVERYTHING that Plasma does, so it can be less confusing in that sense. I switched to primarily using Plasma a couple years ago and I’m probably with Plasma to stay, but personally I think GNOME might be better for Linux beginners. Though if you really want a beginner-friendly DE, go for Cinnamon.

narc0tic_bird ,

Certainly Plasma if you’re coming from Windows, unless we’re considering pre-customized GNOME variants like for example Ubuntu uses.

Sure, KDE can be more complex in terms of configuration and customizability, but the default configuration is already good for most users.

Beginners using vanilla GNOME will quickly miss features like a minimize button and certainly tray icons.

imecth , (edited )

Beginners using vanilla GNOME

Beginners will never really be in a position where they'll be using vanilla gnome, so that argument is kinda moot. And even if they did, those features are literally one extension away...

will quickly miss features like a minimize button and certainly tray icons.

Tray icons don't exist in gnome's ecosystem, it only becomes problematic once you get third party applications.
The real problems are the minimize/maximize, desktop icons, and panel on top when coming from windows. Although these days with the ever increasing phone use people might just be more at ease with gnome's workflow anyways.

narc0tic_bird ,

Okay but the comparison was about GNOME vs KDE, not “GNOME modified with 5 extensions and tweaks that may or may not break with the next major update”.

Also, most users will want to install third party applications. Your average gamer will likely install Discord and Steam, both of them use a tray icon. And no, most gamers aren’t very technical when it comes to their OS.

imecth ,

Okay but the comparison was about GNOME vs KDE, not "GNOME modified with 5 extensions and tweaks

Yeah each distribution has their own patch set. If you really want to compare you need to start with the most popular, ubuntu and fedora.

Also, most users will want to install third party applications. Your average gamer will likely install Discord and Steam, both of them use a tray icon.

The two examples you gave are definitely not most users. I'd be surprised if it were even 20%. And the tray icon isn't necessary for either of them to work correctly. Most people use the computer to open the browser.

fionnafire ,
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I started with gnome then moved to plasma, that’s probably a good way for beginners to go

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