did Debian really got better for newbie desktop users?
I mean, I just want shit to work and I don’t have any complaints, unlike I had with other distros. HP EliteBook 840 G5 (i7 model) running since Debian 11, then upgraded to 12. Debian 12 fresh install on a HP ProDesk 600 G4 Mini as well everything working right after installation (including the special keyboard keys). My main desktop i7-6800K / Asus X99-M WS/SE also had it for a while and it worked fine but due to work and small compatibility annoyances I moved to Windows. At some point I was running it on an old MacBook, the setup was harder and I had to fix a couple of thing but it worked better than macOS - at least it had a recent browser :P
The rest of the machines where I run Debian are Supermicro servers (or AMD boxes running headless) so they aren’t useful for this conversation.
Use case for those machines is web, email, VSCode for embedded development, SSH into other machines, networking related jobs and typing stuff sometimes.
I see people from time to time complaining about Debian, but frankly I don’t get it. Unlike Arch it has an installer, even a GUI, comes with sensible defaults. Installation can be done by pressing next at every step (without changing anything) and as long as you aren’t running on AliExpress hardware or some shady brand from 10 years ago things usually work fine.