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How far away is GIMP 3 from GIMP 4?

I tried the Flatpak development release of GIMP 3 and there are already big problems with UI consistency.

For example the forced theming makes it unusable on KDE, this issue describes the too big UI very well and in general it seems like it doesnt make sense to have these huge UI elements on a compact App like GIMP.

Meanwhile apps like Inkscape are on GTK4 afaik, and GTK stands for GIMP ToolKit (or GNU ToolKit?). So its kinda ironic they are upgrading to GTK3 just now.

It seems they are also just doing some cleanup in the code, so I wonder how big the step to GTK4 would be?

And it problems like too large UI elements or theming problems could be fixed.

kariboka ,

@pop

QuazarOmega ,

I believe Inkscape is still working towards GTK4, but yes they are much farther ahead, to be expected when there are more developers active, after all.

GTK has long outgrown GIMP, it’s much more general purpose now, though the acronym remains. Who knows, maybe it’ll be renamed to GTK Toolkit in full MIT hacker style one day

isVeryLoud ,

It’s the GNOME ToolKit now

Rustmilian , (edited )
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Within 500y

tetris11 ,
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lightyears you say?

Holzkohlen ,

Who cares? I am fine with the way it is, I am just going to be annoyed with the UI being updated anyways. I am still annoyed by the thunderbird update cause now dark reader takes a second to give me dark mode emails.

Pantherina OP ,

Dark reader works? I am using dark background light text and that doesnt work, also some addons are not yet in the Thunderbird store. I can recommend ublock origin with custom *.zip *.mov filters, essential

Thunderbird got better, even though advanced filters are now gone? Not sure when.

But modern Toolkits are important especially for Wayland support

deliriousn0mad ,

Ok I admit I never thought about using ublock on thunderbird but it sounds interesting, could you explain what advantages it and those filters give? As far as I know TB already blocks some elements within emails for security and privacy purposes

Chewy7324 ,

I’ve set Thunderbird to only use simple html without loading of resources. That should take care of all tracking and exploits, so I don’t think ublock is necessary unless loading images etc. is important.

Pantherina OP ,

Yes Adblocking is often not needed and may slow down your TB. But people putting filenames with *.mov and *.zip in them would mean you click them and actually open URLs, as these are now registered TLDs. A very stupid idea of Google

seaQueue ,
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If I had to guess when GIMP will be native GTK 4 I’d say no sooner than five years, more likely it’ll be 10. By the time GIMP runs on GTK 4 we’ll be working with GTK 5 or 6.

ProtonBadger ,

I don't know how long it will take but it should be much much less work now that gnarly UI elements as old as GTK have been replaced with modern toolkit ones.

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