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b0o , in PSA: the OpenStreetMap-community has arrived to Lemmy as well

Let’s get all the Free Software communities on here!

Sarcasmo220 , in Has anyone used or contributed to OpenStreetMap?

I’ve used it, but mostly to contribute as the data for my area is sparse as well. I find it fun to map the areas I visit. I haven’t added recently because I am using a mobile Linux device and I haven’t found an application to easily contribute.

lengsel , in System76's first in-house Laptop Virgo will have a open source Motherboard design. Licensed under GPLv3

Test it with OpenBSD and with a Linux-libre distribution to verify how open the hardware is.

coldhotman , (edited )
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CaptainAniki , (edited )

This is patently false. As of now my Dell laptop doesn’t use any proprietary blobs to speak of.

bilb ,
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Even if that’s true, that’s a different computer.

CaptainAniki ,

Right. This laptop will be even more open. I’m not getting it…

bilb ,
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I see what you’re saying now. Which dell laptop is it, by the way?

I suspect what people are assuming is that your laptop might have some closed source firmware or BIOS, and I assume what System76 is saying is that this won’t be true on their Virgo laptop.

I’m a framework guy myself, at least so far.

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CaptainAniki ,

Intel hardware is very well supported in all distros at this point. You don’t need to do any configuration with intel or nvidia at this point [running the open source driver]. You can have Arch up and running in minutes on certain Dells. My two are a 2021 XPS with Arch and a L5411 with Ubuntu [for work]. Both of these IIRC you can get with Ubuntu from Dell direct.

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TheImpressiveX ,
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As of now my Dell laptop doesn’t use any proprietary blobs to speak of.

By chance, it wouldn’t happen to be the Dell Latitude E6400?

ghostermonster ,

That’s open source PCB design, not firmware or internal design of chips on that PCB.

refurbishedrefurbisher ,

The GPU and WiFi drivers are going to be the major limitations here. All GPU and WiFi vendors now require proprietary blobs in order to function.

lengsel ,

No. OpenBSD develops their own drivers fot Intel iGPU l, 2.5Gb ethernet, and wi-fi. They don't have.license to include them in base, they download the firmware after first reboot if there's a basic ethernet connection.

The source code is publicly available from OpenBSD firmware folder on server, but cannot be included in the base installation.

refurbishedrefurbisher ,

I’ve only used Linux-libre when it comes to fully free systems. There is no option to download proprietary firmwares on a GNU/Linux-libre distro.

Are the firmwares distributed as blobs, or as source-available (proprietary-licensed) code?

lengsel ,

For OpenBSD firmware? They are not blobs but are binary installs as there is no such thing as a source installation, everything has to be compiled and build before it can be installed.

I believe OpenBSD firmware has an ISC license attached to them, but since OpenBSD developers develop the firmware, they don't have legal license from Intel to distribute in base, but I'm pretty sure that OpenBSD firmware has an ISC license for freedom.

citizensv , in why did you switch?

I switched because I read Linux is secure and needs less resources, and also because of the open source philosophy. And because it’s free! Hahaha Sometimes I donate a little to different open source developers. Let’s help the community.

hardcoreufo , in What was your first experience using Linux? How old were you? Stick around or did you go back to windows before eventually circling back to Linux?

Accidentally fried the windows install on my first laptop in 2005 or 2006. My friend told me to try Ubuntu and I loved it. A few years later I had an art school GF and she introduced me to Macs. I wanted to be cool so I upgraded to a 2008 unibody MacBook. I used Mac OS for a while until apple started to really wall off the garden and the laptop was no longer supported. Got a new Dell XPS around 2016 and got back on the Linux train. Not hopping off again except maybe for a BSD.

Puffymumpkins , in What was your first experience using Linux? How old were you? Stick around or did you go back to windows before eventually circling back to Linux?

About 10. Used Tails to use my dad’s laptop to watch Battlestar Galactica until 3 am.

I didn’t see the point of mainstream distros at the time because

  1. I was 10 and was forbidden from computers at the time
  2. Windows 7 was great
Odo , in Has anyone used or contributed to OpenStreetMap?

I am actually going to a mapathon event in my city this weekend, so yea, there’s an active community of people making their surroundings more accurate on OSM.

Coeus OP ,

I never knew such a thing existed. What a great idea.

pietervdvn ,
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Have a look at openstreetmap.community and osmcal.org

Sailor_jets , in What was your first experience using Linux? How old were you? Stick around or did you go back to windows before eventually circling back to Linux?
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I was around 16 or 17 when my Windows Vista laptop took a dump. Managed to install Ubuntu via WUBI, not because I was interested in Linux, I just really wanted to watch Gundam on Youtube and I didn’t have the money to take my laptop to a repair shop. When I got a new laptop I planned on staying with Windows 7 but 3 days later I nuked and paved Linux Mint over it because I got used to how Linux worked lol. 13 years later I’m running Gentoo on my main desktop, Arch on my laptop, and debian everywhere else.

eric5949 OP ,

I want to try gentoo someday but there’s no way I’d want it on my main machine, you are for sure dedicated. I think I might try out debian sometime though, maybe on one of my servers since they’re all running Ubuntu right now.

Sailor_jets ,
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I use Debian exclusively for my servers. Rock solid experience for me. On my desktops I like having up to date stuff and even though Debian Sid exists it’s not the same as Arch or Gentoo testing.

pietervdvn , (edited ) in Has anyone used or contributed to OpenStreetMap?
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Hi! Wrong sub? No worries, our subredditcommunity (!openstreetmap) is right here as well!

Did you also know that Apple Maps and Bing Maps use OSM data too in some areas, for some types of categories? Bing even has cloned an OSM-editing program.

Furthermore, you can use mapcomplete.osm.be to add shops or other POI. (Obligatory shill as I’m the main dev of that one ;) )

pietervdvn

Sailor_jets , in Anyone else starting to favor Flatpak over native packages?
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I use Gentoo so when I want to try a package that has a butt ton of dependencies or other fun things I give it a whirl via flatpak if available. It’s super nice, not gonna lie, and I see the use case of immutable distros. I think they are neat.

DidacticDumbass OP ,

That is actually pretty cool. I know about portage, but I think it defeats the point of gentoo. Compiling from source is the point, right? That way the user gets all the speed benefits and optimization for their particular hardware.

Flatpaks are a great preview to see if the compiling is worth the time! Or a permanent solution for some software. I am happy that people don’t seem to have qualms about mixing software managers.

Sailor_jets ,
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The point of Gentoo is it’s configurability. Gentoo has binary packages in it’s main repo’s and even an experimental binhost for precompiled packages. Forcing one to use any one thing is against the Gentoo philosophy.

DidacticDumbass OP ,

That makes sense. Thank you for clarifying my misconception. I think I will set that up. I have a couple of Dell Optiplexes that are bumming it out right now. I can put one to work with Gentoo.

Sailor_jets ,
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Gentoo is pretty rad but be prepared for the compile times and to fail a few times (it’s a learning experience!). You could even speed things up by setting up Distcc on a beefy rig to build stuff for your optiplexes.

DidacticDumbass OP ,

Okay, that seems cool. I had not considered that a possibility. It would be fun to “stream” any compilations to the Optiplexes.

Sailor_jets ,
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Also one of the use cases for flatpaks I forgot to mention was for proprietary software like Steam, Spotify, and Discord. It makes installing those a breeze.

DidacticDumbass OP ,

That is probably the most important use case. It is good not to allow proprietary software to extend their tendrils beyond the sandbox.

some_guy , in What was your first experience using Linux? How old were you? Stick around or did you go back to windows before eventually circling back to Linux?

MKLinux on my PowerPC Macintosh when I was ~14. Read about it online. Got my mom to take me to the book store to look for a book on Linux. They had none. Booted to a command prompt and had zero idea what to do. Didn’t run it again until (many) years later.

coffeeguy , in why did you switch?

When you first switch you might feel overwhelmed because you’ll have to develop a sense of how things work in a non-Windows world. But, after a bit you’ll realize you feel in control of your computer, maybe for the first time ever. It may seem like a small thing, but the realization that I finally “own” my computer and control the software that is installed on it, how it runs, what programs do what tasks, etc… was really surprising and made everything worth while.

As for switching, I had been exploring the idea. One night while writing an important work email on my Windows 11 pc in outlook (also work required) my pc just randomly shut itself off and, of course, outlook did not save the email draft. Deleted the windows virus the next day and my pc has worked much better ever sense.

If you make the switch you’ll be able to find lots of great help with technical issues online in places like this.

the16bitgamer , in AlmaLinux OS - Future of Alma Linux
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As someone who built a server with Alma before this who mess started, I am happy with my distro choice

echo , in Migrating away from Fedora, looking for advice.

Any specific reason why you’d like to move away from Fedora? It’s an amazing distro, all things considered.

Codename_goose OP ,
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Don’t get me wrong. I love Fedora, but with the things they’ve done recently, I really don’t think what I want from an OS and RH wants are the same anymore. I’d prefer to separate from them while I have the opportunity before I’m invested to the point of staying because it’s too hard to migrate.

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  • sadreality ,

    I am a regarded linux user but my understanding is that they cutting ability of the community to package certain sections from RHEL

    Raphael ,
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    When someone tells you Fedora is

    completely independent from redhat.

    You ignore them.

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  • Raphael ,
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    There is context, you just need to step outside of your rock and see the rest of the posts at /c/linux

    There are MULTIPLE threads touching the subject, in the front page. Stop being so lazy.

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  • Raphael ,
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    And fedora is a community project, i don’t see why it should be boycotted for redhat’s actions, people don’t seem to be against rocky/alma?

    Read the

    MULTIPLE threads touching the subject, in the front page.

    Also I was using bold and all caps for emphasis, would you appreciate it more if I just repeated it instead?

    There are multiple, I repeat, multiple, I repeat, multiple threads touching the subject, in the front page

    Also multiple videos on youtube if you’d like to educate yourself, which you clearly don’t.

    Raphael ,
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    HHAHAHAHHAHA

    sadreality ,

    Do you live under a rock?

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  • tubbadu ,

    All the red hat turmoil, there are plenty of posts here on lemmy

    Dubious_Fart , in What was your first experience using Linux? How old were you? Stick around or did you go back to windows before eventually circling back to Linux?

    I tried linux and went back to windows to many times to count, mostly in the halcyon days of late dialup/early “Broadband” (back when broadband was a whopping single meg down), always for the same reason… Had a problem I couldnt find a solution for, and the few times I reached out to linux focused IRCs and stuff, well, so say that my head was bit off would be putting it lightly, which always ultimately lead to me reinstalling windows95/98/xp

    Thankfully, there was a perfect storm of Valve dumping dumptrucks of money into linux, creating proton, and Windows 7 reaching EoL that I finally said fuck it and switched for good around… late 2018ish I think? I still kept Windows 7 for dualbooting for games that didnt work via proton, but eventually I was booting into windows less and less as more games just worked on linux with proton until… about 6 months ago, I realized I hadnt logged into my Windows 7 drive in over a year, and finally wiped it.

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