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PurpleRiver ,

Lotta antisemitism here

imposedsensation ,

lol

Hazdaz , (edited )

They are the cause of every pointless war in that region that we get involved in.

That’s like going out to the local pub and having that one buddy who constantly antagonizes the neighboring booth and then when the shit hits the fan, expects you to protect him, while he runs and hides under one of the tables.

hark ,
@hark@lemmy.world avatar

Can someone explain how the US benefits from Israel?

dingleberry ,

They keep all the Jews in the promised land so the rapture can happen soon. /s

DarthBueller ,

That is literally the reason, not sure why you “/s” flagged it. The USA would still support Israel without the American evangelicals because of the large jewish population of the USA, but Israel would have a much more conciliatory approach toward the Palestinians.

BubblyMango ,

It gives it control over the area by keeping israel dependent on the US. Part of why the US actually wants the conflicts at the area to remain. This is basically the cold war phase 2.

hakase ,

Yeah, because there definitely isn’t a reason why Israel sending troops to other Middle Eastern countries would be a bad idea. It’s definitely just because they’re a bad ally.

HawlSera ,

Explain to me why Americans can’t have single payer because “ToO eXpENsIve”

But we can fund Israel’s single payer no problem.

This is why I wish “America First” wasn’t a racist dogwhistle.

I would be onboard with a platform where America stops getting involved in other nations bullshit for War Profiteering reasons and just took care of its own people.

SwallowsDick ,

Does America fund Israel 's healthcare?

HawlSera , (edited )

I believe it does, I think I remember reading that somewhere, but it would have been years ago, so I wouldn’t be comfortable betting my life on that.

Edit: Okay apparently we did up until 2007

DarthBueller ,

No. Military in-kind assistance only since 2007. Before that, substantial financial assistance from 1971 to 2007.

imposedsensation ,

Money is substitutable. It’s laughable when politicians earmark funds for only a specific purpose or only provide supplies and equipment.

If those are things that the recipient would otherwise spend money to buy, then you’re supporting whatever other things they end up spending the money to buy.

UltraMagnus0001 ,

iron triangle has a lot of lobbyists

outstanding_bond ,

Not a huge fan of the Israel situation but it does seem like they often stay out at the US’s request:

During the 1990–1991 Gulf War, Iraq carried out a missile campaign against Israel, in which it launched 42 modified Scud missiles (designated Al-Hussein) at Israeli cities with the strategic objective of provoking Israel into launching retaliatory attacks and potentially jeopardizing the multinational coalition formed by the United States against Iraq, which had full backing and extensive contributions from other Muslim-majority states; Israel did not respond to the Iraqi missile attacks due to American pressure, and Iraq failed to gather support for its occupation of Kuwait.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq–Israel_relations

robocall ,
@robocall@lemmy.world avatar

slowly lowers pitchfork they are still an apartheid state but okay

Kaped OP ,

Dont look up double citizens in the congress. Cant send your own people to die lmao

Blamemeta ,

Because they’re actually friendly? Compared to almost everyone else aside from Qatar, they’re downright helpful.

All relative of course.

Magrath ,

Could you provide some examples?

Blamemeta ,

Saudi Arabia comes to mind

Magrath ,

I mean how they are friendly to the US.

Blamemeta ,

Oh, go through this. Kinda surpring actually.

…wikipedia.org/…/Israel–United_States_relations

hark ,
@hark@lemmy.world avatar

Do you have any key excerpts that you found surprising from that long wikipedia article?

Blamemeta ,

The big one to me is that they help with the Suez Canal.

DarthBueller ,

Why you are being downvoted is beyond me. People’s lack of understanding of the middle east is profound. Easier to hate on Israel with barely veiled antisemitism than take a moment to understand that Israel is politically diverse, and that the religious whackos on BOTH SIDES fuck everything up for everyone. There was a cute arab israeli fellow student that was sweet on me when I was studying ethnicity and national violence in Israel/Palestine. My Christian arab israeli friend warned me not to talk to her, because (points to a group of guys that always looked like they want to murder me) those guys are Muslim Brotherhood and nearly beat to death the last guy that tried to go on a date with her. Even though she wasn’t observant, didn’t wear a head scarf, etc. Yitzak Rabin was murdered by the ultra orthodox. Instead, it’s “Israelis bad, Palestinians good.” It’s fucking ridiculous. Does Netanyahu blow goats? Yes. Does that justify blind support of Palestine? Fuck no.

Blamemeta ,

Because they’re Nazis in denial

MindSkipperBro12 ,

Isn’t the Israeli Prime Minister trying to destroy the judicial branch because he has corruption charges?

DarthBueller ,

Yes, the judicial branch that is by no means liberal (but occasionally issues decisions protecting the rights of non-Jewish Israelis) but that is hated by the conservatives because it’s not hard-line enough. It’s a fucking nightmare, and people of conscience are speaking up.

ox0r ,
@ox0r@jlai.lu avatar

They’re an ally because they kill slightly browner people

Tb0n3 ,

They’re an ally mostly because Christian Fundamentalists need it to exist to justify their coming end times prophecies.

RegularGoose ,

This is the actual real answer. They say it openly all the time.

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