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gravitas_deficiency ,

Ubisoft will look up and shout “save us!”

And we will whisper

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slaacaa ,

“Shareholders need to get comfortable not owning their yacht”

TankovayaDiviziya ,

I was a huge fan of Ubisoft. I basically stopped playing any of their games after Assassins Creed 3. With the exception of AC: Black Flag, which I got from the high seas, ironically.

Oneser ,

The 5 year price graph is much nicer to view.

helpmyusernamewontfi OP ,

I originally used the 5 year one but I thought it wouldn’t be as “accurate” to their most recent disasters

lowleveldata ,

They could have got away still if they actually make good games

ImplyingImplications ,

Yup. Millions subscribe to MMOs and Game Pass. Live service games like Genshin Impact and Fate/Grand Order are incredibly popular. There are also games with crazy intrusive DRM like kernel level spyware and always online DRM that are still installed by millions. How can you look at these stats and not think people are fine with paying for temporary games? If the game is good enough, players don’t care. Ubisoft’s problem is their games aren’t good enough.

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Making good games is probably not as easy as it seems though.

helpmyusernamewontfi OP ,

you seem to be 300x more knowledgeable than the suits that run these companies

RootBeerGuy ,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Question, is buying games on Steam “owning”?

nehal3m ,

No, it’s not. If Valve goes belly up you can kiss your games and the infrastructure they need goodbye. Also you don’t get to resell games you already own or give them away and selling accounts is against ToS. If you die your games are gone, you can’t give your account away legally.

RootBeerGuy ,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Yeah, that’s what I thought. Not trying to be a smart ass, I just keep seeing things like this for Ubisoft and other companies and people just crap on them, but then Steam is almost never criticised for the same issue (or I am not seeing those memes). I guess Valve makes enough other things right so people are more happy to overlook this?

Pacattack57 ,

Steam gets a pass because their business practices are consumer friendly.

SmilingSolaris ,

Valve has stated that if their store was ever to be discontinued they would remove all DRM they have in place to allow for the games to be played without it. This was a long long time ago though.

RootBeerGuy ,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Yeah, promises change over time. Hope they can keep their promise on that but not sure how that would even be feasible with a catalogue that large.

SmilingSolaris ,

I fear for valve when Gaben dies. I hope he picks someone good.

MentalEdge ,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

And it is only really a promise they can keep for their own games. Like I said in another comment, lots of game studios already ship their games without DRM.

If Valve goes under, the games that are gonna be a problem are the ones from the likes of Ubisoft and EA.

They wouldn’t lift a finger to make sure people who bought their games on steam could keep playing them if steam disappeared

In fact they’ve been taking their games back even while steam is still around. Lots of people own unplayable games on steam because the publisher screwed the servers or something.

huginn ,

Steam is not a publicly traded company, so they don’t pull this kind of skullduggery in service of the shareholders.

They’re a company full of people who, gasp, like video games: unlike the average navel gazing, brainless, Harvard Business School CEO.

Given their track record they’ve been more consistently “pro gamer” than other companies and are given a lot of leeway for that.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

But you can, write your ID and Password on a paper under your keyboard and “forget” it before death.

nehal3m ,

It’s possible, sure, but if pressed Valve will ban the account.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Just don’t let them be pressed ¯_(ツ)_/¯

MentalEdge ,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Depends on the game.

There’s a surprisingly large amount of games on steam that are DRM free, meaning once downloaded, running the game doesn’t actually require steam.

RootBeerGuy ,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

But then, how do you keep the game for later, like reinstalling it on a system that does not run steam, that won’t work right?

Lemminary ,

Pirate magic, me boy!

MentalEdge ,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

It’s just a folder. You keep the folder.

When you want to run it, you go to the folder and double-click the .exe of the game.

If you want, you can drop a shortcut to that exe somewhere convenient.

“Installing” is just putting files in a folder somewhere, and maybe adding a shortcut to the start menu so the user can find and run whatever got installed. There’s nothing special about it.

Unless the .exe needs some other program to be installed, or some files that need to be available somewhere else (which these DRM free games don’t), you can just move the folder the game is in wherever you like, another PC even, and it’ll still run just fine.

Aurenkin ,

Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V

FelixCress ,

They should all be like this.

MentalEdge , (edited )
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

That is the main selling point of GOG

TankovayaDiviziya ,

I imagine it would be for older games though?

MentalEdge , (edited )
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Why do you assume that?

Any dev can decide to just not code their game in a way that requires steam. Valve doesn’t modify whatever the studio decides to ship in any way that would change that.

helpmyusernamewontfi OP ,

No. Do you prefer subscription services?

Broken_Monitor ,

Buy games on GoG when you can

SomethingBurger ,

You still don’t own them. Read their ToS.

MentalEdge , (edited )
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

They don’t have to provide a way to install the games in perpetuity, but I’m pretty sure the ToS don’t provide a way for them to stop you from keeping or running a DRM free copy you’ve downloaded.

So sure, the ToS says you don’t own the game, but unlike ubisoft that puts that non-ownership into practice, GOG goes out of their way to make that legal non-ownership utterly meaningless. If you have a copy of the game, then you have a copy of the game.

Aurenkin ,

I prefer to buy from Steam because they allow me to play my games easily and invest time and money in Linux which results in more freedom for all gamers. I’ve been very disappointed with GoG’s record on Linux.

figjam ,

May be an unpopular opinion but I don’t care what happens to my games when I die because I will be dead. If I want to pass something on to any kids I have it will be memories.

justsomeguy ,

I for one appreciate that ubisoft chose the top down view of poop as their logo. it’s the perfect symbol for everything they represent and they’re incredibly brave for wearing it proudly on their chest.

Empricorn ,

I thought it was symbolizing them circling the drain, at least when it comes to quality…

Gradually_Adjusting ,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Investors: You didn’t do it sneaky enough! Shhhh

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