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Ranvier ,

Sorry to post a serious comment on a shit post, but just in case this is bugging anyone:

Turn the clock away from your bed. The anxiety from potentially not getting enough sleep can prevent you from falling asleep in a vicious cycle.

Sometimes people can even be sleeping for quite a while without realizing they had been sleeping, then just look at the clock and be like, oh no I lied here for another hour with no sleep, and feel even worse, and now ironically be unable to fall back asleep. If it’s bad enough sometimes people can even get what’s called paradoxical insomnia. Where the person will insist they hadn’t been sleeping or barely slept, even if you had them in a sleep lab with video and eeg and you show them they’ve been sleeping for hours (they aren’t trying to lie or anything, it’s an issue with perception of sleep amount and the perceived low amount then causing symptoms and distress).

Anyways, set that alarm, turn the clock away. Stop micro-calculating how much time until morning.

Description of paradoxical insomnia from a patient point of view if anyone’s interested:

www.aafp.org/pubs/afp/issues/2017/0615/p770.html

SnokenKeekaGuard OP ,
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Oh that is very cool! And a good link to share. Thanks

tygerprints ,

Who falls asleep in two minutes?? If I adjust for how long it takes me to fall asleep, that's an hour and half at least. If I'm lucky!

IHateReddit ,

depends on how sleep deprived you are lol

tygerprints ,

Probably fairly sleep deprived. I'm older now, but I never did fall asleep easily. And I've always had night terrors and violent nightmares, so I wake up in panic most of the time, and it takes hours for my heart rate to go down enough to fall asleep again.

I guess I average 4 to 5 hours of sleep on a good night. But, I don't feel sleepy during the day, my heart races all day long also, I think I'm just built not to be able to settle down.

BangelaQuirkel ,

You got that checked out?

tygerprints ,

I have major high blood pressure, but my heart has always raced. When I was a kid doctors couldn't figure out why. They said I have tachycardia and irregular rhythms, but otherwise was healthy. I've tried blood pressure meds, but they don't work and only upset my GI tract tot he point that I'm in the bathroom 12 hours a day (even on low doses).

So I just race, I race and race and I suppose some day i'll burn out and fall over. And I don't even get a medal for finishing the race.

SnokenKeekaGuard OP ,
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I have the ability to fall asleep on command whenever I want

tygerprints ,

That must be amazing. My brother can do that. I don't know how, I've never been able to. I wish I could!!!!!

SnokenKeekaGuard OP ,
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All I know I do is turn off my thoughts or if i cant-think comforting thoughts.

tygerprints ,

That's a big part of my problem, I can't turn my thoughts off, my mind races all the time. I follow a very set routine (I have for decades) for bedtime, I shower and brush my teeth and floss and get myself physically ready, but my mind just won't relax. But my heart also races, so -- it takes forever to get to a sleepy place.

ccryx ,

I know it sounds dumb, but lying still and thinking the same word over and over seems to help me if nothing else does the trick. If you notice yourself thinking something different just get back to it.

tygerprints ,

I've tried that and the "2 minute" trick of blanking out your mind or just repeating a mindless phrase over and over. But it doesn't work for me. Even when I can quiet my mind, I'm still awake for a couple of hours - I just don't get sleepy and I don't feel a desire to sleep, so it's hard to force myself into it.

AlmightySnoo , (edited )
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But you also have to adjust for the fact that the calculation itself is going to take a few seconds, and you’d then have to adjust for the time it takes to do the adjustment and you probably end up with an implicit numerical scheme you have to solve

doofer_name ,

needs 2 HOURS to fall asleep

does not hear the alarm

gets 9 hours of sleep instead of 5:32

profit

gets fired because thats the 15th time this month

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