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Chickenstalker ,

Biology is complexity out of simplicity. Those mere chemical processes you deride involve enzymes, hormones, feedback mechanisms, homestasis, all working together. The simplest bacterium is more complex than any machine we ever made.

newIdentity ,

And enzymes, hormones and feedback mechanisms all are chemical compounds which react with each other. But even chemical compounds don’t exist like this but are just another model based on abstraction.

randomdeadguy ,

Gonna perish like a dog anyway. It was going well until the neo-feudalist call to arms. Dogs are based, dogs didn’t kill the planet. The contrast in tone between the text response and Mickey’s face is funny tho

iforgotmyinstance ,

This is a sixth or seventh plane astral meme

Th4tGuyII ,
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Do I detect a whiff of solipsism in the air?

It's true to a certain extent though. All you can know for sure is that your conscious self exists. Literally everything and any thing else could be a facsimile, an illusion...

For all you know you're just a Boltzman brain experiencing existence for the briefest moment before you decay to nothing.

But none of that really matters, we're the ones who give our lives meaning, so you might as well enjoy what you got while you still got it, whether it be chemicals or whatever the fuck.

dmmeyournudes ,

That’s the plot to several Star Trek episodes.

NumbersCanBeFun ,
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  • RedditRefugee69 ,

    Yeah also, they’re overlooking the fact that, while caused by chemicals, the feelings are still real and have value. Don’t believe me? Cut off your own hand and tell me how that feels

    Zorque ,

    Ah, the value in life is but pain.

    NounsAndWords ,

    feelings are still real and have value

    Subjective value. Equal to other things with subjective value. Like NFTs.

    yA3xAKQMbq ,

    and to really send it all home to you, eventually when the sun turns into a red giant it will consume the earth wiping out all of human history or anything you might have “left behind.”

    Wait, why stop here? After that, the universe will continue to expand and get colder until the Big Freeze.

    Be happy you can actually see the universe. Some aliens in a distant future might never be aware that there’s something else, because light will be shifted so far it’s impossible to understand. There will be less and less stars anyway, so it’s going to be a lot darker.

    Maybe protons aren’t actually stable and they will break apart too, at some point, and then the last thing will be black holes slowly dissolving due to Hawking radiation.

    SpaceNoodle ,

    fewer

    NathanielThomas ,

    I think the only thing that bothers me about dying is I don’t get to see how it all ends

    KingJalopy ,
    NathanielThomas ,

    These things actually bring me joy because it means my lack of accomplishments are meaningless. In five million years, a fart in the history of time, all mankind will be extinct and the fact I browsed Lemmy instead of doing meaningful things isn’t important whatsoever.

    Vilian ,

    Just enjoy the ride folks. We are here for a limited time. Try not to stress, do things you love and try not to be a dick to others in the process. You only get one chance to do this and today is the best day to start doing it right.

    you have a compelling argument, i’m droping college

    dmmeyournudes ,

    This is just the plot to evangelion.

    ComradeKhoumrag ,
    @ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub avatar

    Nah no way literally never gonna die nice try tho

    Pinklink ,

    Information is conserved

    MoonshineDegreaser ,
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    I hope one day in my quest for knowledge, I become so cynical that it’s contradictory

    vlad76 ,
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    Thankfully there are things called facts.

    Godric OP ,

    Are there? That sounds interesting, how do you know these facts to be factual?

    vlad76 ,
    @vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Oh, I know.

    bionicjoey ,

    Logic

    NathanielThomas ,

    Donald Trump logic or autism logic?

    Pinklink ,

    Oh good. It had been a little while since trump has been brought up with no context by some zealot trumper just desperate to shove their misled ideals into somewhere that made no sense and had no business being being brought up, I was beginning to worry we’d moved on

    NathanielThomas ,

    Donald Trump logic refers to believing something simply because you believe it without evidence or facts. I was insulting the bloated orange tiny handed man

    ThatWeirdGuy1001 ,
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    Replication. If you take the same ingredients and put them together the same way you get the same thing. If you can repeat the process it’s factual. This is a dumb philosophical argument.

    Godric OP ,

    It’s a dumb arguement if you think philosophy is dumb, yes, lol.

    Does repetition really mean truth? I must have seen the Inglorious Basterds assassinate Hitler half a dozen times, but I wouldn’t claim that he died in Paris as a result of Operation Kino, even though I’ve seen the process repeat several times.

    Why then should we think repetition is a indicator of anything being factual?

    ThatWeirdGuy1001 ,
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    I don’t think philosophy is dumb but I do think it should be rooted in reality. That movie is a deliberately made up story. Written by a human who physically exists. Acted out by people who physically exist. You can’t interact with those characters because they don’t physically exist.

    But by repeatedly watching the movie you prove that the movie itself exists and is factually real.

    I said this is dumb because it disregards logic. Real philosophical thinking points don’t completely disregard physical logic.

    Godric OP ,

    I’m not sure it was understood what was meant by the movie. It’s not about a movie, it’s about perception of reality.

    You’ve made several assertions about the movie, how it was written and shot by people who physically exist. How do you know they exist? Have you interacted with them?

    Also, how can we be so certain physical logic is real, compared to a movie? Is it simply that what we call reality engages touch and we don’t know it to be fake, like we do a movie? Just because what we perceive to be reality isn’t so obviously a charade, does that necessarily mean it is truly real?

    Can you prove that anything you see around you isn’t just a hyper-realistic simulation?

    lowleveldata ,

    More like commonly believed assumptions

    yA3xAKQMbq ,

    You mean the fact that you’re just pure energy in a computer and you’re solely interacting with programs all the time?

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