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phoenixz ,

… And then they all stood up, and clapped!

Facebones ,

Judge was shifting around because they know this 15 minute affair just became a 3 hour shit show 🤣

setsneedtofeed ,
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Everything here is “baby’s first SovCit script” this is all basic scripting that I’ve seen hundreds of times in videos.

The reason the judge probably physically reacted is because they’ve seen it too, and are pre-emptively frustrated.

You_are_dust ,

I love these posts so much. It’s fascinating to me. I have watched documentaries about flat earth from a similar fascination. I’d love to see something similar with sovereign citizens. I’m really interested in seeing how people come to believe things like this.

BonesOfTheMoon OP ,

Many of them just seem to be deadbeats not paying their child support, but a lot of them just seem to think they’ve cracked the secret code of life, and no matter how many times their schemes don’t work, they persist in believing in them.

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

There are certainly a few identifiable patterns.

You do have the deadbeats who’ve exhausted all legitimate ways to avoid consequences. You see this not just in child support cases, but people who are looking at losing their driver’s licenses. They have no legitimate way to wiggle out of the consequences, and they don’t accept the consequences, so they will try any Hail Mary crazy play.

Then you’ve got the slightly smarter cynics. These aren’t true believers, but people who intentionally waste time. The plan is to be so frustrating that the court gives up rather than continue to waste resources on a low level case. These people also may be trying to be so frustrating that the judge or cops lash out and do something that actually does violate the person’s rights. Just because somebody is obnoxious, they still have rights, which is why judges will sometimes allow these people to go on and on.

Then you’ve got the people who are naturally contrarian arguers. They’ll argue about anything, anywhere, and use the most troll logic possible because all they care about is leaving the other side speechless. This is your Kim Blandino type, who will argue to the point of overturning decisions even when it’s in their favor.

Then you’ve got the gurus. They may or may not be true believers. A lot of them will intentionally get a court case going so that they can spin the results for their followers.

Then at the end, you’ve got the true believers. They might come sliding in from any of the above categories, or they might just have been grabbed by the notions of Sovcits and run with them.

AllNewTypeFace ,
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The gurus generally don’t get high on their own supply. The ones who intend to stay in business are meticulous about correctly filing tax returns and paying taxes on the profits of telling the marks how to avoid paying taxes by claiming to be a boat or whatever.

mechoman444 ,

I have come to the conclusion that sovereign citizens are dumber than flat earthers which is insane.

FlyingSquid ,
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Was that written on one of the tablets they give you in jail that you have to pay a fortune for?

Diabolo96 ,

Jail give you tablets now?!?!

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Shitty ones. If you want to pay for them.

www.jpay.com/PMusic.aspx

Incidentally, a lot of prisons give prisoners free tablets now. But people in jail often haven’t gone to trial yet, so I guess fuck them?

Diabolo96 , (edited )

Its really shitty indeed, It’s so shitty I don’t think it can even run 720p videos locally without stuttering, let alone YouTube/Netflix,etc., but it’s only 50 bucks. (125H of work with the inmate wage of 0.40$/H 🤯 )

I thought that since it’s for inmates, they gonna try to rake up the price and sell it for like 300$ or more. Of course, they still can make big money on their back by making anything and everything a subscription. Want to watch a movie or play a game? It’s 20$ an hour.

Edit : theappeal.org/prison-tablets-ipads-jpay-securus-g…

Both JPay and GTL charge prisoners at every step of the communication process: In New York, each email sent or received requires a “stamp,” which costs $0.25—twice that if the message exceeds 6,000 characters, or if it includes a picture or card. For four stamps, friends and family can also send 30-second “video-grams” to loved ones inside.

Music, movies, e-books, and games can also be downloaded on JPay tablets for exorbitant fees. Songs are listed for as much as $2.50 each, and a single album can cost up to $46, according to state records. Renting a movie costs between $2 and $25. Until November 2019, when the company backed down in the face of public pressure, JPay was selling incarcerated individuals in a handful of states e-books sourced from Project Gutenberg, a database of free books

Lol.

Zron ,

Those costs may seem ridiculous and petty, but also remember that prisoners do not have to be paid minimum wage. They often make only a few dollars an hour.

So that 20 dollar rental for the tablet may be an entire days work. Every email exchange a half hours work.

The people doing this belong in jail.

Diabolo96 ,

Oh, I know those costs aren’t nothing. I live in a country with a minimum wage of 150$/month.

SpaceNoodle ,

Pac-Man goes to a pellet court

somewhiteguy ,

www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/1/1-103So, they’re claiming commercial rights as an individual. I’m not sure any judge would want to deal with someone who doesn’t understand the difference between individual and commercial. All of these I’ve seen deal with fighting their ability to drive a vehicle or child-support, so if it’s related to that the judge wasn’t getting puckered. He was getting ready to beat you with a mallet.

TexasDrunk ,

If they have commercial rights that means they were engaged in commerce while traveling. Guess they need plates.

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