Baldur’s Gate 3 Delay Shows The Xbox Series S Still A Headache For Developers

lorty , 10 months ago

Developers can shit on series S as much as they want, but if Microsoft relax the feature parity it would be a death sentence for the series S.

Blackmist , 10 months ago

More of a death sentence than games just not coming to Xbox?

They could just run the game on xCloud for certain titles.

lorty , 10 months ago

They could just run the game on xCloud for certain titles.

Not a bad idea honestly.

MrLuemasG , 10 months ago

Except you’d have to be always online to play it that way, and forcing always online as the only way to play is a huge part of what killed the Xbox One. It wouldn’t surprise me if Xbox isn’t ready to try and push that again (as the only option, they’re obviously fine having it be AN option on their console)

GreenCrush , 10 months ago

The game looks boring as hell anyway.

EarthlingHazard , 10 months ago

I have a feeling all of these complaints about supporting the Series S will disappear once the Switch successor releases and devs have a new console with weaker specs to complain about

Deceptichum , 10 months ago

But devs already have the Switch which has weaker specs.

Spuddlesv2 , 10 months ago

The Series S specs exceed all the listed minimum specs on the BG3 Steam page for PC. How is the Series S holding anything back when they apparently support their game on shittier PCs?

Dum , 10 months ago

It may be due to Microsoft demanding certain minimum configurations: at the very least minimum resolution and minimum frame rate. On PC you can always go down to 240p and/or live with 10fps in very high density scenes. Microsoft can (and will) just say “no” if they try that on the Xbox S

Spuddlesv2 , 10 months ago

I understand that but surely the articles should be “developers lie about minimum specs on PC” surely. I believe the concept of a lower priced and accessible console should be encouraged. If that means developers have to try a little harder to support people who buy a cheaper console then so be it.

Dum , 10 months ago

I guess that’s debatable, depends on how you define what “it runs” means. PC gamers with dated hardware may be fine with playing on 1080p, while on the Xbox Microsoft might veto if it doesn’t run on 1440p and 30fps. Of course weaker hardware won’t run everything faster hardware can, you can’t just sprinkle infinite magic optimization dust on a game, there are simply limits what’s possible with weaker hardware, and once you’ve reached them you can’t just shout “enhance” like in CSI Miami.

Spuddlesv2 , 10 months ago

So MS enforcing a level of quality is a good thing then. The alternative is 12 fps at 720p.

magic_lobster_party , 10 months ago

The problem is that they have couch coop play. They struggle making it work with Series S. From what I understand, they cannot just make a separate version without coop just for Series S. All game features in Series X must also be available on Series S. I guess that’s a limitation imposed by Microsoft.

With PC you don’t have that limitation. If your computer can’t do couch coop then too bad for you. Minimum specs probably doesn’t account for coop.

I’m not sure why they don’t remove couch coop completely from the Xbox versions. Probably because they think it’s removing too much of their vision of the game.

teft , 10 months ago

So because 5 people on the face of the planet don’t want to use the internet like modern humans the rest of us have to suffer? When was the last time anyone actually used couch coop? It was Halo 2 for me.

Nighed , 10 months ago

A lot of people would love to have more split screen co-op (or Vs) games.

Its stupid that if I have a friend round I cant play a multiplayer game with them.

richyawyingtmv , 10 months ago

Me, with a mate a week ago on Resident Evil 5.

HellAwaits , 10 months ago

What does this have anything to do with the modern age? You’re making a massive assumption about something you know absolutely nothing about. Just because someone wants to use couch co-op doesn’t mean they don’t live in the modern age. What kind of dumb assessment is that? Also, are you unaware how DnD games are typically played? It’s- gasp -in person with other people. Wow!

h3rm17 , 10 months ago

I constantly use it. I play with my partner, not with randos on the internet, not with friends. We live in the same house. We already bought 2 copies on PC to support the devs, but being forced to do so would be a shitty move. Also, when we have friends over, we do not expect them to bring their own PCs and shit if we want to game. Couch coop is where it’s at.

Thadrax , 10 months ago

My PC is above minimum specs and BG3 ran really poorly even on low. Maybe they got a similar issue with the s.

Spuddlesv2 , 10 months ago

Yeah that’s the problem, they obviously lie about minimum specs on PC but that is OK for some reason. Xbox enforcing a quality experience for its users is somehow “holding the industry back”.