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Deestan ,

Satisfactory 1.0 AND Factorio Space Age same fall?

Might have to ask my wife to get a second job so I can take a two month vacation.

peopleproblems ,

Yeah it’s… Not looking great for my productivity

slumberlust ,

When you’ve been in ‘beta’ for several years, is this even news? They seem to just try to use it as a tactic for free sales bumps when needed.

techMayhem ,

I mean the end of beta an entering full release is pretty noteworthy. Especially because there is a lot of content they have been working on over the years which is being held back for the end (most notably the story). After that Coffee Stain will either move towards making something new or creating some kind of expansion for the game.

slumberlust ,

It can be noteworthy, and I agree a story is a carrot that might be worth another go.

Thanks for explaining!

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

Uh nope. If you followed satisfactory then you’d know that’s absolutely not true. They’ve continuously added features, worked with the community, and now they’re finally publishing the finished polished product.

With all the hate companies for being in perma EA, you’d think gamers would be happy when games leave EA. Nope, apparently gamers are just mad no matter what.

slumberlust ,

So you agree EA is being abused across the industry but it’s ‘angry’ to ask if that’s the case here?

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

You didn’t ask, you accused them of it, and they definitely don’t deserve the accusation. If you had asked, I would have responded that actually no, they’ve done an amazing job all through EA, and should be a model for games going forward

Poppenlockenheimmer ,

Not the person who responded to you but:

Your first post is a bit ambiguous. On initial reading it seemed to me that you were accusing Coffee Stain specifically of abusing the EA system to manipulate sales, but I can also see how your intent may have been more general and broadly directed.

In either case, you didn’t “ask” anything so it is a bit disingenuous to imply that you did.

The person who responded to you may simply be exasperated with the state of the gaming community, and it seems you are similarly disillusioned with the state of development. In either case, both of you seem to have some justifiable frustrations that are being misdirected. It’s important to call out the bad behavior of devs, and it’s important to recognize the ones who are doing things the right way. I think it’s equally important to be civil.

The gaming industry has become just that - an industry worth over 200 billion dollars, and the industry leaders do not have the best interests of the gaming community at heart. The amount of infighting and snark among the community does not serve us. Community action can have enormous impact, as seen recently with the Helldivers 2 PSN debacle. It is in our best interest to elevate the level of discourse in our community and leave the barbs to the in-game match chat.

K, that’s my soapbox, sorry if it came across preachy, it’s just a topic that’s important to me.

Poppenlockenheimmer ,

While I agree with you here that Coffee Stain is a shining example of what EA should be and how it should be utilized, I think you can also understand OPs cynicism given the state of affairs. I don’t think it’s entirely fair to jump straight “to all gamers are mad no matter what” but I certainly empathize with your frustrations regarding the apparently implacable nature of the community.

My intention is not to tone police, I just think conversations like these would be more productive if they were less antagonistic.

Carighan ,
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EA just means “we released unfinished and we’re still working on it”. Because factually that’s what it is.

So Coffee Stain:

  • Released a game quite unfinished (but still fun, don’t get me wrong!).
  • Actually invested the time and money to get it finished and fix it up after release.
Mr_Dr_Oink ,

Well baldurs gate 3 was in beta early access for 3 years and it turned out to be an absolute masterpiece.

Your anger is misplaced.

Gamea would be better across the board if the developers and publishers all worked with players and tested the games properly.

groet ,

There is abig difference between those two games though. With bg3 you got a limited part of a story driven game. You could never reach “endgame”. It was a horizontal demo. You get everything until a certain point.

With satisfactory the early access was the fully playable game from beginning to end. It is vertical. And since then they have just added more things. They will very likely keep doing exactly what they are doing now after the release. In one year the game will have more content than it does now and in retrospect, deciding which version in time is 1.0 is arbitrary.

BG3 will not get a 4th chapter in a year.

And games have been tested long before early access and similar models existed. Just because Bethesda can’t test their games doesn’t mean everybody else is shit too.

Psionicsickness ,

I think the marker of 1.0 is that satisfactorys story is being released then.

EncryptKeeper ,

This would by definition be both the first and last time they’ve had a full 1.0 release announcement.

Phegan ,

Is early access a new concept for you?

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