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If you use Mbin, what's the difference between a thread and a post?

I wish the fediverse would just stick to one set of jargon, and everybody uses the same terms to mean the same thing. Even “instances” should just be called “servers”. That’s all it is. This server talks to that servers, and information is exchanged.

So, if I understand this right, “magazines” on Mbin are the same as “communities” on Lemmy, are the same as subreddits on reddit. Three names to mean the same thing.

And a “Thread” is just a post. Like I’m making a post right now on Lemmy. If I did this on Mbin it would be called a “Thread”.

But then I see there’s also “comments” which is self explanitory (I hope…)

And there’s also “Posts”. But if Threads are posts, then what are Posts?

QUIT FUCKING AROUND WITH TERMS, FEDIVERSE! LETS ALL JUST KEEP THINGS SIMPLE!!!

…I keep thinking I have things figured out, until someone says “yeah, but have you tried this?” and then I look into it, and I’m confused again. Arg!

AlexanderESmith ,

To comment on the "instance" term as a systems admin; If you run an "instance" (e.g. fedi.example.com ), it might have multiple supporting servers to balance the load. So using "instance" for a specific fediverse provider does make sense to avoid confusion between that cluster of servers vs a specific server within a cluster.

Rentlar ,

I guess part of it is that each platform wants to be specific to the purpose of its own network/platform. Mastodon as a Twitter/Tumblr like microblog site, PixelFed like Instagram, Friendica like Facebook, so on and so forth. Align all terminology to one set of terms I think takes away from the uniqueness of each platform. If you want the truly neutral default cross-Fediverse term, then just use the one from the ActivityPub spec. That pleases every Fediverse platform equally, i.e. not at all.

Users = Actors. Upvote/Favourite/React = Like. Post/Note/Toot/Thread = Object. Happy? Didn’t think so.

When one network interacts on another, the target will do its best to translate your actions into the way it does things. That’s why Link posts from Mastodon appear so wonky in Lemmy, and you can only reply to Mastodon users who posted in a Lemmy community.

misericordiae ,

Iirc from my time on kbin, posts are for the “microblog” part, i.e. the part that interacts with mastodon.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

Oh. If thats the case, Mbin seems like it’s laid out really smart. It just needs to use a kind of branded name for mastodon. Kind of like how “twitter” had “tweets”, and “X” has “racist bullshit”. Well maybe Mastodon could have “Snouts”. Or someone smarter can think of a better word for Mastodon noises.

But whatever Mastodon settles on, thats what Mbin should call them. “Magazines” should just be “Communities”. And “Threads” should just be “Posts”.

And what we know as “Posts” would be called “Snouts”.

can ,

Mastodon has “toots”

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

…toots? Like farts with a cute name?

GregorGizeh ,

Twitter had a tweeting bird. Mastodon has a, well, tooting mastodon.

threelonmusketeers ,

And Xitter fittingly has X-cretements.

Steve ,

I think I prefer eXcretions

andrew_s ,
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I'm guessing it's an artifact of them supporting both platforms like Lemmy (who's users make Threads and Comments in Magazines) and platforms like Mastodon (who's users make Posts and Replies in Microblogs).

If you don't like that, you're really not going to like what they call downvotes ...

Sterile_Technique ,
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If you don’t like that, you’re really not going to like what they call downvotes …

Don’t leave us hanging like that!

andrew_s ,
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They call them 'reduces'

Sterile_Technique ,
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Well you were right. That definitely rubs the wrong way lol.

Thank you!

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

Ew.

WHO thought that was the right term??? Like was some guy using a yellow notepad and putting the bad ideas on the right, and the good ideas on the left, and “reduces” is the one that they landed on??? How bad were the other options???

Chozo ,

The original Kbin dev is Polish, so English is likely a second language for him. Also, it's still very early in development, so a lot of terminology put in use are likely placeholders until something more natural-sounding could be finalized.

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