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Rq: How to Mastodon

Be me.

Wanted to use the mastodon app instead of browser.

Sign up, everything smooth.

Later: Read Lemmy.

See a mastodon link.

Disagree with post, post my critique.

Want to see how my post is rendered.

Post list can’t be sorted and has a weird order.

Scroll and realize that the majority is in agreement.

Post list so long, no way anyone can be expected to read up upon for context.

Feels like random thoughts dumping: Fire and Forget.

Is this how such platforms work? The author prompts something and random people interact with eachother - without a consens at the end of the post? Or am I missing something?

catloaf ,

You’re using a Mastodon app to access Lemmy? Yeah, it probably doesn’t support Lemmy’s tree comments. Mastodon is designed to be more like Twitter. If you want to use Lemmy, use a Lemmy client.

mryessir OP ,

Sorry, not a native speaker.

Today I dipped into mastodon. I thought an app would aid explorability, it didn’t.

I couldn’t downvote - even after registration - so I made this post. Within lemmy I can disagree with a downvote if I strongly do so.

So I am serious if such platforms should only be read but engaged with. Because it was the most hostile website/app interaction I encountered since I am on the internet.

tamlyn ,
@tamlyn@lemmy.zip avatar

While Mastodon, Lemmy, Misskey and a lot other software plattforms are connected in the Fediverse. You should be aware, that different software work different on the Fediverse. Mastodon is designed liker Twitter/X, to be a Plattform posint short messages or news. Lemmy is more designed like a forum, not as user based as Mastodon, more in communities. There is a connection between a lot different Software Platforms on the Fediverse, but not every feature is on every plattform. So you are not able to downvote a Lemmy post from Mastodon. You have the option to interact with Lemmy posts with a Mastodon account and it’s a valid way to do it, but for the full experience on all Plattform, you should make yourself an account on every Plattform that is important for you.

I have never used the Mastodon app, i think a lot 3rd Party apps are better on Mastodon, so i don’t know how it looks, but Mastodon has, or had, a weird form in showing commet trees in my opinion.

mryessir OP , (edited )

That’s something (interesting) to unpack but wouldn’t belong here. Anyhow for the sake of my personal benefit I proceed to comment.

You answered everyting per se. So thanks.

There is a connection between a lot different Software Platforms on the Fediverse, but not every feature is on every plattform. So you are not able to downvote a Lemmy post from Mastodon.

Makes sense: Mastodon does not have downvotes, apparently. But:

You have the option to interact with Lemmy posts with a Mastodon account …

Is this also valid the other way around? Are there peer-reviewed documents I can inspect to learn how the fediverse can interact between eachanother? I did not look into the protocol since standards wouldn’t address my higher level view I have applied here, I suppose.

I have never used the Mastodon app, i think a lot 3rd Party apps are better on Mastodon, so i don’t know how it looks, but Mastodon has, or had, a weird form in showing commet trees in my opinion.

I downloaded the fediverselab app prior but it didn’t allow sorting either. Which is why I made the above assumption.

The mastodon app appears to be a very good piece of software; Better then the former.

The app doesn’t allow opening links from any instance but it appears to me that they do not want to provide a wildcard intent (android-API specifica) so that they will be mentioned when tapping any link on ones android device. A thing which has to be implemented at build time and would possibly still leak private instance domains. It looks carefully engineered.

// edit #2: fat font

tamlyn ,
@tamlyn@lemmy.zip avatar

Is this also valid the other way around?

It’s not possible or at least not for now. That’s something that has to be implemented and the devs of Lemmy doesn’t seem to be interrested in that feature. Kbin is kind of something inbetween Lemmy and Mastodon, you be able to post on Lemmy and Mastodon, but i’m not sure about the future of kbin.

infeeeee ,

Kbin is dead, mbin is the new kbin:

tamlyn ,
@tamlyn@lemmy.zip avatar

Thanks, was not that much up to date about it.

catloaf ,

Oh, so you were using a Mastodon app to post to Mastodon, and just comparing it to your experience with Lemmy. Yeah, what you experienced is the desired experience, like Twitter. All short-form content, a lot more posting than reading.

HKayn ,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

Some instances choose to disable downvotes. If you downvote a comment that originates from one of those instances, it will have no effect outside of your home instance.

mryessir OP ,

It is already hard to discover appropriate instances to pick from but didn’t spot any aggregator which prompts this instance property. If you can aid this I may reconsider using mastodon!

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