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How do you deal with a existential crisis?

How to you come to terms with the fact that you will eventually not exist?

Rant: This has been keeping me up at night for way too long and every time I think about it I feel like am literally choking on my own thoughts. I have other shit to do but everything seems so inconsequential next to this. I just can’t comprehend why or how the universe even exists or how a bunch of atoms can think or that quantum mechanics literally revealed that the world is not loaded when you are not looking like how tf do you know that I am observing something.

Btw I am not looking for a purpose in life although this may be interpreted as me asking for that.

If anyone has the same problem as me good luck my friend just know that you are not alone.

WhatDoYouMeanPodcast ,
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  1. gratitude is very important

Not just existentially for a chance at being, but just muster as much of it as you can for the people around you, for every kindness shared with you, and for the beauty you get to experience. Even for bad shit that teaches you a lesson you can say thank you. It’s literally free.

  1. helping others

If your own shit is fucked, you might get a little humility, space, and grace by thinking about others. Check in on your friends, find an opportunity to volunteer, donate if it’s in the cards for you.

  1. hydrate and get enough sleep

When in doubt, these two might help

  1. spend some time in nature

It should feel good to do this, so I wouldn’t prescribe an amount of time, but at least 30 minutes of touching grass

After you have those four settled, I think it’s worthwhile to start thinking about how you put your life together. In my mind, if you reach for things that resonate with you and you pursue it by doing things that you enjoy, you’ll maximize your enjoyment, miss out on things that aren’t for you, and meet the right people along the way. The consequences of your actions aren’t permanent for you, sure, but if you live authentically and kindly, you’ll affect others positively so that they’ll have a better trip hurdling through space. Being as joyful as possible will have costed you nothing to help and, on the contrary, gotten you as close as possible to having your struggles be worthwhile.

I suppose I just spend less time thinking and more time feeling - smoking life like a loose cigarette from God on a balcony overlooking meaningless and the void. Alan Watts has a very romantic view of being the universe observing itself that never quite landed for me, but you should check out his lectures. They’re very entertaining while being existential. Eckhart Tolle is a LIB and is a little more self-helpy, but is still a fantastic source of knowledge about ceasing to create your own unhappiness.

heisenbug4242 ,

A bit of clarification about the quantum might help calm your nerves: to observe something means something such as light must interact with the particle you try to observe, and that very interaction changes the result of the observation. It collapses the wave function, and what you observe is just one of the possible outcomes. It’s not as crazy as you may think, but it’s very understandable that it may at first seem magical.

KurtVonnegut ,
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quantum mechanics literally revealed that the world is not loaded when you are not looking

I don’t know where you got that info, but that is not at all what quantum mechanics says. If you want a deep dive into what quantum mechanics actually says, here’s a good video series from PBS by a real physics professor that explains it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wxG5KMAFik&list=PLsP…

slurpeesoforion ,

I became a bit of an absurdist.

JK1348 ,

I do Shrooms, LSD, or DMT if I don’t want to commit to all those hours.

BilboBargains ,

An existential crisis can only occur if we believe that we know what will happen in the future. It’s safe to assume that we will one day die and there is no meaning in the universe. However, there is very little utility in dwelling on these thoughts. The important part of life is happening right now, in this moment. Distracting ourselves from this moment robs our lives of meaning and eventually delivers it to the abyss whence nothing returns.

krei ,

Camus!

Barndog53 ,

I had an existential crisis when I was probably 11. It haunted me and I didn’t sleep for days because I was contemplating, constantly.

My belief now, after many psychedelic trips is very akin to the short novel “The Egg” by Andy Weir. Even if I have no idea what the truth could be, I take comfort in that fun read. It seems right to me

I’ve always been a fan of, we’re the universe experiencing itself.

Pieresqi ,

I actually had comfortable morning. I thank you for yet another fun experience of existential crisis.

So much happened before you opened your eyes for the first time, so much will happen after you close them for the last time.

hungryphrog , (edited )

I sit inside a dark closet and listen to whale song. I also sometimes say that the awareness of our inevitable death is the only reason for why we enjoy life. While I’m still here, I want to leave my mark in this world, and that’s why I make art. I can’t avoid death, so I taught myself how to embrace it.

ThePac ,

Repress repress repress!

Okkai ,

Rant:

I had a pretty intense acid trip once and came to the conclusion that nothing matters, there is no meaning to life, there is only an illusion of free will, and most likely our existence and personal experiences in life will be completely forgotten within 3 generations (almost like we never existed to begin with). I was super duper depressed after that for several months.

It eventually gave me a different outlook on life though. If it’s only temporary and there is no meaning, I can create my own meaning and enjoyment in life. Live in the moment, do what you want, and create as much meaning and enjoyment for yourself as you can while you have the opportunity. Don’t worry about what others might think because eventually their existence is going to be forgotten as well.

The act of dying might suck, but being dead and not existing seems very serene. Sometimes things just sort of end.

Muetzenman ,
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For me death is what gives life a meaning. No game is fun if you have to play it forever, no quest can be finished no boss is ever defeted. Things need to end. That is how Evolution works things have to change or everything is just frozen in time. The difficulty of decissions comes from their finality. You cant go back to school. You can’t go back and ask this person out. So your life might be meaningless in the grand scheme of it all but it metters in the short period of our existence. Does it really matter if you stand up each morning? It actually does.

WhatDoYouMeanPodcast ,
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CsXGF8uzUAOh6fqV ,
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All this time I thought that an existential crisis was having a crisis about the fact that you exist, not about the fact that you will not exist in the future.

BolsheWitch ,
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Personally? I transitioned but everyone has a different reason for an existential crisis.

UdeRecife ,

What works for me may not work for you. I’ve found comfort and freedom from my existential dread on Epicurus’ Four Remedies (tetrapharmakos), especially the second one. These are:

Don’t fear gods;
Don’t worry about death;
What is good is easy to get;
What is terrible is easy to endure.

In his Letter to Menoeceus, Epicurus writes:

Get used to believing that death is nothing to us. For all good and bad consists in sense-experience, and death is the privation of sense-experience. Hence, a correct knowledge of the fact that death is nothing to us makes the mortality of life a matter for contentment, not by adding a limitless time [to life] but by removing the longing for immortality. For there is nothing fearful in life for one who has grasped that there is nothing fearful in the absence of life. Thus, he is a fool who says that he fears death not because it will be painful when present but because it is painful when it is still to come. For that which while present causes no distress causes unnecessary pain when merely anticipated. So death, the most frightening of bad things, is nothing to us; since when we exist, death is not yet present, and when death is present, then we do not exist. Therefore, it is relevant neither to the living nor to the dead, since it does not affect the former, and the latter do not exist.

The gist of this passage is that worrying about death is misguided. Death is not a state of being. As such, our sense of self only exists while we’re alive. In this Principle Doctrines, Epicurus says:

Death is nothing to us. For what has been dissolved has no sense-experience, and what has no sense-experience is nothing to us.

To be you have to experience. And death marks when we no longer have any sense-experience. This understanding of death is like a dreamless night from which we never awake, says Socrates in Plato’s Apology. Seen in this light, Epicurus is right that it is a bit foolish to suffer in life from fearing a state of being where there won’t be anybody to suffer whatsoever. The existential dread is precisely this misguided fear.

Once you recognize the truth of this statement, just like magic, poof, that existential dread disappears. Of course, if you have a religious view that postulates life after death, with all the subsequent very human drama entailed by that belief, you’re now dealing with a different kind of fear. And that fear is precisely what Epicurus addresses in his first remedy, Don’t fear gods. His reasoning is also clear cut here.

By definition a God is perfect. It’s immortal and has no needs. Because of this, any god has no worries. As such, gods, by definition, don’t care about us. Caring about us implies they have some sort of need, thus rendering them less godlike.

This ties with the second remedy. The cherry on top is to simply remember this: just as we never worry with the time before we were born, it’s also silly to worry about the time after we are gone.

Godric ,

Beautiful, even if I disagree with some of it.

UdeRecife ,

Thank you. As an Epicurean myself, I’m pretty aware that Epicureanism is not for everybody. I would argue that some people have a natural disposition that predisposes them to find solutions like this approachable.

joucker29 OP ,

It is obvious to me that fearing death is pointless but this explanation makes it feel real and is really comforting so thanks.

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