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How do you deal with depression about climate change?

I started getting sad about climate change two years ago after seeing Planet Earth and many documentaries. I completely changed my lifestyle to reduce my part and put significant effort into it.

But seeing rich celebrities who use as much as a common man’s lifetime resources in a week or two, and others who barely put in any effort to combat it, and corporations fucking the entire planet for quarterly profits, barely any efforts towards fighting it even though we had known about its consequences 30-40 years ago, I get this feeling that my efforts are even worth it.

Slowly, I told myself that evolution failed itself by giving a bit more individual selfishness over community/species survival. Just like human beings, Earth’s time has started to end. Its death is inevitable. Everything should come to an end. Only if evolution had given a bit more thought to species survival, we would be in a much better place.

How do you all deal with this?

cymbal_king , (edited )

Focus on progress that has been made, solutions to the climate crisis have been growing exponentially over the past decade. And it’s not a binary issue of everything is sunshine and rainbows vs we’re all fucked. There’s more of a spectrum. Also remember the past environmental successes we’ve had with like acid rain, the ozone layer, leaded gas, mercury pollution. We’ve come a long way.

Making any progress, no matter how small makes the future just that much better than it otherwise would be. Yes, systemic changes out of the control of anyone on Lemmy are needed, but if say every person on Lemmy worked towards reducing their own environmental impacts that could have huge ripple effects in the economy of the green transition. Just plan out pragmatically/realistically how much time, mental energy, and resources are worth it to you.

A lot things that individuals can do to help with the climate crisis often also have personal benefits like long term financial savings, less pollution exposure, healthier plant-based diets, etc.

stoy ,

I don’t think about it.

Really, that is it, I don’t deny climate change, it obviously is real.

But I am just an IT guy, I live alone, I commute with public transport, I have a small apartment, my car is a PHEV, bought used, consuming 4,5L/100km petrol on average.

I keep my computer turned off when I am out, I won’t pretend that I am super eco friendly, I do fly from time to time, this year I’ve been to Spain twice. I also enjoy driving my car, but I am cutting back on it.

When celebs and VIPs are bombing around the planet in business jets, companies and governments are actively working against electrified rail or rail in general, and pushing for more car infrastructure, then I can see that me feeling guilty about driving my car for fun or just to get to cool photo spots won’t make a difference.

Add to that the huge waste of energy that us crypto, and I have realized that yes we are fucked, but I have time to see cool stuff before everything goes to hell, so I try to use it.

I am planning on taking a trip down to germany next year and see some cool museums, and won’t feel bad about it.

ganymede , (edited )

Notice how public discourse goes round & round in a lively show, but never seems to get anywhere?

This is strawman public discourse, and its largely by design.

Stop thinking, worrying and especially talking about climate change.

Instead talk about pollution & poison

Everyone can see it. It can’t be denied or handwaved or debated away.

STOP POISONING OUR AIR, WATER AND SOIL.

WE NEED THEM TO BREATH, LIVE AND GROW OUR FOOD. (duh)

sunbeam60 ,

But that’s not how carbon dioxide works. It isn’t individual poison - our bodies don’t give a shit whether it’s 350 ppm or 450 ppm. The planet does though.

ganymede , (edited )

The planet does though.

Is that the same planet we currently live on? And borrow atoms from to make our physical bodies?

Poisoning the planet is poisoning ourselves. Yes its that simple.

Pollution is the mechanism of anthropogenic climate change. Pollution is something everyone can see with their own eyes. And for clarity, carbon dioxide in these emissions is a pollutant [1].

Making it more complicated can arguably be done ofc, but is it actually more effective?

Shifting the public discussion from pollution to fixating on individual molecules is meaningless to the layperson, simply enables the fraudsters [2], and meanwhile the scientific consensus is regarding a variety of pollutants in these emissions [3] anyway.

Finally, even if you had a magic wand and magically fixed all the carbon levels and changed nothing else, we’re still be drinking, breathing and eating food grown in toxins. Fuck that.

References

  1. naei.beis.gov.uk/overview/pollutants?pollutant_id…
  2. theguardian.com/…/revealed-forest-carbon-offsets-…
  3. science.nasa.gov/…/scientific-consensus/
xmunk ,

Cynicism, trying to do what I can personally, voting and participating in politics, and just fucking hoping we’re over estimating the effects or that we’ll manage to come up with the political will to mitigate the worse effects.

Also, praying to Cthulhu that boomers hurry the fuck up and kick the bucket… at least the ones that aren’t cool.

Looking at Trump’s climate priorities (basically, burn as much coal as possible) and the people who support them fills me with disgust… it is as greedy and uncaring as our shitty late stage capitalism and I can’t comprehend existing with so little empathy or foresight. The deniers are essentially incomprehensible to me so I avoid them whenever possible and just hope they’ll die off faster than sane people.

crazyminner ,

People saying do nothing, I’m saying do something!

Get out start a community. If one already exists join it. Find ways to improve your community.

Go vegan.

There are so many things you can do. Don’t accept doing nothing, be a stubborn fuck and do something to alleviate the sadness.

ramenu ,

“There are so many things you can do. Don’t accept doing nothing, be a stubborn fuck and do something to alleviate the sadness.”

Good words to live by. :)

sunbeam60 ,

“Evolution had given a bit more thought to species survival”.

… that’s not how evolution works, unfortunately. It requires us to do the thinking.

destroyamerica ,
@destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml avatar

try and pay attention to China honestly. the seriousness they treat climate change with is the only thing that gives me hope that we’ll beat it. some examples from very recently:

China’s embrace of rail and EVs stalls holiday petrol demand

China adds new clean power equivalent to UK’s entire electricity output

Shanghai to fully switch to new energy buses, taxis by 2027

China is on track to reach its clean energy targets this month… six years ahead of schedule

China Makes $31 Billion Nuclear Push With Record Approvals

Brief summary of the last three months of Chinese decarbonization policy by David Fishman on Twitter (xcancel link)

grue ,

Have you considered eco-terrorism? \s

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f5d4ddbe-d415-4a34-89bb-82399858ccbc.png

NauticalNoodle ,

I act local, think global. I also accept that it’s largely beyond my control, so there is no point in being that upset about it. It’s not like I will be having kids to worry about in the future, either.

CanadaPlus ,

Well, I don’t really think our own species is likely to be ended by this one, but when it comes to death and loss, I think you’ve hit on the right perspective. Everything ends; things are finite in space and finite in time. If you like causality that’s actually a feature, not a bug, because everything happens all the time if there’s an infinite amount of it.

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