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intensely_human ,

How have you found this material? If you’re seeing this material, in this person’s iCloud account, without their knowledge, that does not speak to the security of their icloud account.

So how is it that you’ve come to see this material?

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intensely_human ,

I see.

But you mentioned a potential explanation based on his icloud being hacked. How would his icloud being hacked be a potential explanation? What’s the connection to icloud?

Are these pictures — the ones that have been photoshopped to show murder scenes — ones that you know where taken by his phone?

The icloud hack would then be someone getting their hands on those photos?

Is that true of the other women as well — that their photos originated on his iphone?

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intensely_human ,

You didn’t answer any of my questions. Looking for precise answers to these questions, by number.

  1. Are at least some of these photos known to be taken by his phone?
  2. If so, how is that known?
  3. How is it known that they were uploaded “from an actual camera” and “before anyone could have seen them”?
  4. Are all the women involved part of this friend group?
  5. Are the photos taken secretly from events where only this guy was present to take photos?
  6. How did it become known to you and others, in the group, that this one friend had reached out to him? Did she report to the group she had done so?

Generally speaking, I’m sensing an etymological sloppiness and vagueness in the interpretation of information flows within the group. That could be a language barrier thing. But it could also indicate an environment which is ripe for someone to be framed for this activity.

I’m sorry if I come across as rude. I am autistic, and I am currently making a conscious choice to prioritize my autistic precision over friendliness in communication, in response to the seriousness of the situation.

intensely_human ,

I want to add that timing can be an effective tool in framing. For example, one wishing to frame a newcomer to a group can commit a crime immediately after the newcomer arrives; this will automatically cast suspicion on the newcomer.

The way timing plays into this scenario is that if the friend who reached out to him immediately told the group that she had done so, then if the guy is being framed the framer could respond to her confrontation report by pulling down the snuff profile and it would seem as if her confrontation had caused the pull down.

The most likely explanation is that your gut is correct. But people who operate outside the normal flow of culture (for example the kind of people who might compile thousands of photos of a group of women including photoshopped murder scenes), tend to have an ability to manipulate perceptions and take advantage of unconscious etymological heuristics to create false narratives that are then “discovered” by innocent people caught up in their bullshit.

Does this guy, your primary suspect, give other indications of a capacity for violence or deep hatred?

Oh, another question I just realized:

  1. How was the snuff site profile discovered originally?
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intensely_human ,

Assuming memories and these answers are accurate, I think I’m convinced it’s this guy.

I’m really sorry you have to deal with this shit.

I don’t know what to do about this, aside from arming yourself as best you can.

Now that he’s been notified that his behavior is known to the group, he probably won’t escalate to violence. But the drinking bothers me because drug addiction creates multiple personalities in the sense that the person has a different set of values and goals when they’re using as when they’re not. Sober him could be horrified, whereas drunk him could be willing to do crazy shit.

I’d still recommend contacting whatever your country’s equivalent of the FBI is.

I personally would go talk to him, but I can’t recommend that for anyone else. I tend to be (at times irrationally) fearless, and I have a soft spot for men with dark hearts since I’m familiar with my own dark side. I myself would try to rescue him from his darkness, but I have to emphasize that comes with serious risks.

So to boil it down my advice is:

  • Definitely: treat him as dangerous and arm yourself to protect yourself
  • Optionally: do what you can to guide him into therapy

Do NOT let your guard down if you decide to help him. It’s okay to help someone while treating them as a real threat at the same time. Love does not have to be naive and defenseless.

ramenu ,

Go to the police immediately!

Angry_Autist , (edited )

No, the FBI. Fuck cops, unless you WANT your dog shot.

edit: My bad, this is EU, police are safe to contact

Ruben ,

You didn’t read that this is in EU, not US. Police is actually pretty competent here.

Angry_Autist ,

Oh my bad, thanks for letting me know, I’ll go back and edit my comments

Angry_Autist , (edited )

Skip the police and go strait to the FBI.

Fuck the police, never involve them in anything unless you want your dog shot and crack sprinkled between your couch cushions.

Remember that poor old lady that called the cops because she thought someone was in her yard and the shitbag pig shot her with no consequences?

Do not let cops anywhere near your life if you can avoid it. The FBI will act on credible online threats.

edit: My bad, this is EU, police are safe to contact

bamfic ,

Eu not usa. Fbi is usa

phoenixz ,

Also, police outside of the US is a while lot more competent and less fucked up and corrupt as in the US. In other countries you can simply go to the police for help and protection

Angry_Autist ,

Yeah I just figured that out, going back to fix

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