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Why doesn't lemmy host any videos ?

I understand the problem with server overloading and the problems with hosting big database etc. But can’t we host short , compressed videos with just good enough quality . Like some of the high quality gifs on lemmy is much ,much bigger than the kind of videos i described . Or am i missing something ? I do understand the issues but then why do they allow big gifs is it because people wouldn’t post much gifs but everyone and their dog will post videos if allowed ? I am saying if 5 mb is the max size of gif you allow set that as videos limit too . AND I NOT AT ALL AM ASKING FOR VIDEOS ON LEMMY JUST ASKING A QUESTION . I IN NO WAY WANT VIDEOS ON LEMMY BECAUSE I KNOW HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT THE INSTANCE HOSTERS . MAYBE JUST MAYBE I SHOULD PUT MY WHOLE THOUGHTS IN A POST BEFORE POSTING AND STOP EDITING IN THINGS AS I GO LIKE AN IDIOT .

EDIT : I put the last sentence in caps because i just wanted to draw attention to it and i am not angry .

Max_P ,
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

I think you’re generally also expected to host the videos externally, like people did on Reddit before that started hosting their own. Remember when Reddit didn’t even have images but rather you uploaded them to imgur? That’s pretty much where we are with Lemmy.

And there are some decent fediverse services for video that deals with it much better, like PeerTube, which even optimizes delivery with P2P.

What I would like to see is integration between services so you can easily share Pixelfed/PeerTube content and Lemmy/Sublinks gets to remain a link aggregator.

THEDAEMON OP ,

Yeah if it shows in the post without needing to click a link i see no problems

thetreesaysbark ,

Weird caps rant at the end

flambonkscious ,

Nuanced regret, I guess. It’s kinda funny…

THEDAEMON OP ,

Should i remove the caps

slacktoid ,

Yes, maybe a caps update or edit in bold followed by what you had in caps in regular mixed case.

Gallardo994 ,

I mean, webm would be totally more efficient than gifs, but here we are

Azzu ,

I mean the real reason is, because no one cared enough to implement it. Probably because there are enough third party sites to host stuff and you can just link them.

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

You can start an instance and host video content and I think the issue will quickly reveal itself 🙂

THEDAEMON OP ,

I said i understand that but why do they allow big gifs then ?

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

I think the impact of big gifs is minimal in practice relative to other stuff that puts load on the server (even if they are, second for second, larger), whereas the impact in practice of hosting potentially-higher-quality video content would be a whole different ballgame

THEDAEMON OP ,

Read edit

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

I wasn't tryin' to say it to disturb you. It sounds like you're pretty much in agreement with reasons it might be a bad idea, so why so angry about someone saying back to you, yes those reasons might potentially make it a bad idea.

❤️ It is ok

THEDAEMON OP ,

I am not at all angry i just didn’t wanna type it out again and wanted to answer your question too .

teawrecks ,

Caps lock is often interpreted as yelling/anger. In the future I recommend instead pressing enter a couple of times at the end of your post, and adding a section that starts with “Edit:”.

THEDAEMON OP ,

Hmm i just wanted to draw attention to the edit .

DarkNightoftheSoul ,
@DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz avatar

orders of magnitude difference in size between a 30 second gif and 30 second video

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Depending on the nature and technology involved in the "gif", gifs of the same quality are usually larger per second just because they're not real well-optimized. I think the issue is more the popularity+length+quality of the stuff that will get posted if you allow "real" videos as opposed to just gifs, which will lead to a massive increase in storage and bandwidth.

THEDAEMON OP ,

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BlackEco ,
@BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com avatar

As an instance admin, I would prefer not to have users uploads videos or GIFs on Lemmy.

Why? Because Lemmy instances make a local copy of media hosted on other instances. Right now, without any cleaning, my instance has been accumulating 18GB of pictures since July. Imagine how much more that would be if videos were in the mix.

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Lemmy does lots of weird shit when you try to upload animated stuff anyway, so I’ve just taken to hotlinking the images from elsewhere.

Easier on instance admins and easier on me since I don’t have to deal with my file being randomly converted without asking.

hperrin ,

Man, my Mastodon instance has ~800GB of cached media.

Iapar ,

That sounds like a pretty big design flaw.

hperrin ,

I do not disagree with you.

Iapar ,

I get the feeling that federation, in its current form, is not sustainable.

hperrin ,

Yeah, but people are going to keep working on it as it grows. It’ll become sustainable because of that.

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