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cmgvd3lw ,

I don’t get it, what’s the point in having removable back, screws, screwdrivers if you cannot remove and replace the parts.

Varyk ,

This is exactly what I was thinking.

I’ve been planning on getting a fairphone next, and didn’t know they had a competitor, and then after watching the review realized they didn’t have a competitor.

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

goes to show how it only needs to look rugged and repairable

Aux ,

So you can change the colour of your phone.

youngalfred ,

☹️ no nfc

jasep ,

Yeah this surprised me. Is NFC payment not common in India?

MenacingPerson ,

Nah, india has UPI which uses QR codes.

UndulyUnruly ,
@UndulyUnruly@lemmy.world avatar

Madness!

ilhamagh ,

Why?

Even a low-end phone comes with a good enough camera for QR which means wider adoption, you need a higher tier phone for NFC.

We have a similar system in my country and I believe we copy it from India, it works and is convenient.

best_username_ever ,

Why

Because 0 security

MenacingPerson ,

What? Payments are obviously going to be secure.

best_username_ever ,

QR codes cannot contain enough data to put cryptographic keys.

MenacingPerson ,

Okay? QR codes are displayed publicly. They display the unique ID of the merchant. That’s all. The payment happens over the internet which is encrypted.

Aux ,

Lol what?

sunzu ,

Isnt it free and very good?

Think of it more is visa master card discover bank of America?

MenacingPerson ,

Yep.

sunzu ,

As in "free" payment processing system deployed and maintained by the Indian government?

MenacingPerson ,

Why the quotes? It is free. Except for the money that you transfer. That is deducted from the bank account, obviously.

sunzu ,

Taxpayers still pay for it, but it is free at the point of sale or transaction.

It is great system tho as far as my understanding how it was done. In us, the rate is 3-4% on credit transaction which dominat payment system for point of sale. Shit is taxing.

Aux ,

The real question is why do people in the US use credit cards instead of debit cards like everyone else?

sunzu ,

It provides better customer protections over any other payment method. It allows you get a charge back if vendor is acting funny.

You zero practical protection with cash for example if physical or less protection with debit card. Debit cards are not good to use for everyday buying if it is your checking account. It is too risky.

Aux ,

Many countries have laws and regulations which create customer protections, so there’s no need to rely on 3rd party solutions.

sunzu ,

Good luck enforcing shit in a US court against a "private enterprise" and you sure as fuck can't count on any regulator here for anything beyond some good lip service.

Smart move is to go based on how system functions, not how it supposed to work. It is likely configured for this anyway.

Use case where possible folks, they are taking it away as is.

Timely_Jellyfish_2077 ,

I guess it’s main target is India where there is almost no need for nfc. Everything is paid through qr code here.

StarlightDust ,

I remember almost a decade ago, the Oneplus 2 not having it was a major downside. I can’t believe we are still doing this song and dance.

systemglitch ,

What is nfc?

youngalfred ,

Near field communication - it’s an antenna that sits inside the back case and let’s your phone interact with payment terminals and the like that support it.

You can add your tap and pay card to your phone and tap your phone instead.

Jarix ,

… you could just put your card on the back of the phone too

CookieOfFortune ,

The phone can support multiple cards, eg credit cards and transit. Those readers usually won’t work if you stack two cards together.

Evotech ,

And biometric pin

Aux ,

NFC payments are more secure than card payments.

XTL ,

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-field_communication

systemglitch ,

Thank you

xor ,

Or wireless charging, bit embarrassing in the good year of our lord 2024

Evotech ,

Holy shit that is a dealbreaker. All I do is wireless charging

legocorp ,

In my opinion this an amazing looking phone that I could use without a case, if needed just buy a new back and stick it to the phone. For me the only problem is the lack of NFC (no Google pay). Strange move by Nothing to not include it.

adam_y ,
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

features with a high degree of customizability - you can swap out the back cover, and also attach things like a lanyard.

Ooooh, a lanyard strap… That’s the sort of right to repair we’ve all been after.

/s

then_three_more ,

It’s so silly. The back is removable with just a couple of standard screws. But the battery isn’t replaceable.

wizzor ,

I have only ever had phones go bad on me due to broken screen, broken battery or lack of software updates. They aldo clearly know this.

c0smokram3r ,
@c0smokram3r@midwest.social avatar

FINALLY 😍

Sp00kyB00k ,

It is the phone everyone deserves but should not be the one you want. It only creates more waste without being reparable.

TarantulaFudge ,

Nothing phone is such a fucking joke there are 0 replacement parts available. I broke my camera a few weeks after I got my nothing phone 2 and your only option is to ship the phone to the UK. The advertise as consumer friendly but that couldn’t be further from the truth.

remer ,

They’re consumer friendly…. They’re all smiles when you buy the phone….

HoustonHenry ,

A little too friendly, wouldencha say, Scoob?

Lukario ,

Wdym? Do they not offer the parts online or something?

lobut ,

I was kinda hoping a modular phone would have a headphone jack module of some sort.

Non-removable battery and lanyard strap is enough I guess…

Melco ,

Does this phone have an SD card and headphone jack?

If not then I’m not buying it.

xor ,

SD card

Yes

3.5mm jack

No, it’s 2024

I’m not buying it

Ok 👍

rakeshmondal ,

How does it being 2024 justify not having a headphone jack. Most other phones competing with the phone 1 do have a headphone jack fyi.

Aux ,

Because smart people started switching to Bluetooth back in the mid 2000-s. Because wires suck big time. It’s 2024 now, there’s absolutely no reason to use wired headphones.

toynbee ,

Poorly fitting username there.

8osm3rka ,

As a person who’s been using Bluetooth headphones almost exclusively for the last 5 years, 99% of them fucking suck regardless of the price range

xor ,

I’ve had a pretty good experience with them, personally, but mine are a relatively expensive pair

But for wired headphones, usb-c headphones seem to be the modern de facto standard

wizardbeard ,

I know this is true, but it’s dumb as hell. The difference in thickness between a usb-c port and headphone jack is millimeters, and a good pair of wired headphones is still a good pair decades later. No need to upgrade the connector unless you’re making money off selling usb-c headphones.

It’s not like it hurts bluetooth users to have a headphone jack they won’t use.

HurlingDurling ,
@HurlingDurling@lemmy.world avatar

Tbh I have an ipod classic and I don’t use it as much as I would like even having a good set of cans because the wire becomes annoying to me after short time so I’m actually going to mod it to add Bluetooth

Grass ,

we should be asking for nvme at this point

jol ,

I don’t understand the point of this phone. Why are idiots flocking to it?

Evotech ,

Cheap?

jol ,

There’s no shortage of cheap devices from other well known brands though?

XTL ,

I haven’t seen any flocking. And idiots certainly still have their regular brands.

jol ,

I mean, 100k phones is quite a few phones…

gheesh ,

If people are buying this instead of other repair-oriented brands like Fairphone, then they’re not concerned about repairability but price.

kirk781 ,
@kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Fairphone isn’t available in many parts of the world. CMF’s sales are boosted a lot by it’s presence in India where Fairphone is not an option.

philpo ,

I’d love to buy a Fairphone. But sadly it is behind in so many features,that I simply can’t.

-no water proof (sadly a requirement in my profession)

-no wireless charging (why? just why? There is no good reason for them to not include that, especially as it is finally adopted by a lot of spaces, e.g. in airline seats,etc.)

  • mediocre camera

I counted the days towards Fairphone releasing the featureset of the Fairphone 5 and was so disappointed.

I am up for other recommendations, though.The first person to name google will be downvoted,though. I literally wrote my lawyer yesterday as they are treating service cases in a illegal manner.

cucumber_sandwich ,

Waterproof and repairability are really at odds.

philpo ,

Yeah,but it’s possible - maybe not everything,but for a lot of components it is possible.

oatscoop ,

They really aren’t: it’s just going to add a little thickness, weight, and cost to the phone. Screws and gaskets aren’t exactly rocket science.

Grass ,

pc watercooling blocks are mostly just orings sandwiched in grooved plates and screwed together. leaks are usually elsewhere. hardest part would probably be accomodating ports. we could even be totally cursed and make it wireless charging and bt audio only and fully seal it and have no speakers.

anon_8675309 ,

They could be concerned about both.

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