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doctorcherry , in Fuck yeah, r/android is still on lockdown

r/apple is not which I find very disappointing

realbaconator ,

Typical average consumer does not care as long as they get to keep using the product. That’s likely the majority of Apple users, it’ll take a replacement (like this one) getting popular enough for them to notice and try it, otherwise on Reddit they’ll stay till death.

Flipht ,

With apple aficionados, it would also take costing a lot of money to make them interested.

essteeyou ,

Nah, just a different colored bubble for their messages.

Poe ,

Seems on brand of them

HidingCat , in Best phone around 120 and 200$? (Read description)

no front camera

That sounds impossible, I don't think that even exists now.

Android 8 or 9

Really, next thing you'll want are Windows 7 PCs? All these OSes are no longer supported, no one is going to sell that new.

monkey011 OP ,

I unfortunely agree with your first point. I prefer older OSes because newer ones are usually filled with more garbage.

DpwnShift ,
@DpwnShift@kbin.social avatar

Of course you're allowed your opinion, but what exactly are you referring to by "more garbage"? Are you sure you're not talking about bloatware installed by phone/carrier companies that's completely separate from the actual operating system? Also, just like PC operating systems/there are OSes designed to be extremely lightweight, with low system requirements.

Security-wise, using any older OS is a terrible idea, IMO. As long as any personal information will ever pass through that phone, that is. Even if someone discovered a way to remotely hack your phone, eavesdrop on all your interactions, and steal your information, it wouldn't be patched, even if the vulnerabilities were published. These old OSes literally aren't supported anymore.

With that said, I wish you good luck in what you're searching for...

monkey011 OP ,

I mean TTS, “Phone Boosters”, animations and other things I don’t need.

Not everyone wants to void their warranty or risk making their phones unuseable.

Someome being able to remotely hijack a device that is running an os built by Google doesn’t make sense. I don’t know exploits that work like this.

BiggestBulb ,
@BiggestBulb@kbin.social avatar

Just because it's made by Google doesn't mean literally anything. Google hacks happen literally all the time.

Just heed the warning and slap new Android on it or an up-to-date alternative OS. Otherwise you're pretty likely to get gotten

randromeda ,

I don’t understand it so nobody does

Just because you don’t understand what security patches are doesn’t mean your phone can’t be exploited, especially when it’s running an os that’s half a decade old.

monkey011 OP ,

Explain how my phone can get hacked then

zysarus ,

There are literally hundreds of security vulnerabilities in Android 8 and 9.

www.cvedetails.com/…/Google-Android-8.0.html

Several of which allow remote code execution (meaning if exploited, attacker would have full control of your device, likely without you knowing). These vulnerabilities can be exploited a number of different ways, for example, this one would just require that your Bluetooth radio is turned on- www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2021-0316/

This one just requires that you open a text message an attacker sends you- www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2020-8899/

This one just requires NFC on your device to be on (which most phones have and is usually on by default) www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2020-0073/

Don’t run old OSes. 90% of the reason new versions come out is to fix these issues.

monkey011 OP ,

Thanks for the effort but i still prefer non-bloated OSes with less data collection. I don’t see anyone complaining about their device being remotely hijacked outside the internet.

zysarus ,

Many of these exploits don’t require that the person using the phone even knows they’re in use bud. You do you, but know that your phone will likely be hijacked to be used as a crypto miner at best. At worst literally all your data will be exfiltrated.

dusty ,
@dusty@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Google isn’t perfect, no company is, just because a big company has made the OS on your phone that doesn’t mean it’s impenetrable, especially if it’s (over) 5 years old like android 8 and 9 are, security issues that exists in these versions of Android are not going away

lexd0g ,
@lexd0g@lemmy.world avatar

the garbage widely known as “security updates”

NightOwl , in [GUIDE][LineageOS][19.1] microG + SafetyNet

Thank you for archiving information here.

FarLine99 ,
@FarLine99@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah. Fuck Reddit. Their value is in our helpful answers. So let them not to have that answers 🙂

Jcb2016 , in Fuck yeah, r/android is still on lockdown

Bet them mods used Rif :P

colonial , in Amadeo's Pixel Fold dead after 4 days of light use
@colonial@lemmy.world avatar

I’m surprised people still want foldable phones. IMO they’re a gimmick - worse, a gimmick based on technology that clearly isn’t “all the way there” yet.

joedinkle ,

Have you used one as a daily driver yet? They’re great!

I started with a SD2, then moved to the ZF4. I loved the Surface, but it’s design caused some issues that the ZF4 doesn’t have. The ZF4 is great, and really shows of Samsung’s software innovations to just the screen real estate.

Not sure I’d go back to a standard slate style phone.

Economizer , in What is the status of Magisk? How to hide root?

I use Magisk Delta (a fork of Magisk) on an otherwise stock Pixel 7 Pro. Everything works including banking apps and Google Pay.

mrjfilippo ,

What made you choose the delta fork over the original? First time I hear of it.

Economizer ,

Because the dev now works at Google, he had to remove the root hiding functions called SU Hide. You can bring it back with various modules, but I was lazy and wanted a install one, do all solution.

Magisk Delta is a fork that brings back SU Hide, and I haven’t needed to install an extra app to fix any apps it couldn’t hide root from.

ren , in Google Pixel Fold Review: Maybe Next Year!
@ren@lemmy.world avatar

I do not understand the appeal of these devices. Most of the time, it’s just a phone but twice as heavy and twice as think.

Then every blue moon you make it into a small subpar tablet?

shrugal ,
@shrugal@lemmy.world avatar

It’s the dream of just opening up your regular phone to have a small tablet, clashing with the reality that your phone will never be regular sized if you want it to be able to do this!

Maybe someday phones can be like 4mm thin, so doubling that for a foldable would be reasonable. But we are definitely not there yet.

SevereLow , in What are the best phones with headphone jacks?

Nokia’s X series 🔥

golli , in Your next OnePlus phone could have a whopping 24GB of RAM

Is there any actual benefit for so much RAM in a phone? Outside of a higher number for marketing and increasing the price? And does this also increase power consumption or is there any benefit to more RAM that counteracts that?

Personally i am still waiting for phones to become proper desktop replacements, in which case i’d maybe see more use in this. They already have more than enough performance for the average user, since 9/10 people probably just browse the web and do some general office work.

copium ,

Pretty much what I think, it’s just bad marketing.
No one need 24gb of ram on a smartphone and only very few on computer.

limerod ,

Emulation, some switch games require 12GB of ram, advanced computational photography(HDR+, super night mode, etc), running those AI models locally on your device (think chatgpt, or something other model for audio, pictures, etc) 6 and 8GB are no longer enough. I run into multi tasking and app reload issues with 6GB of ram, if i disable samsung’s ram plus. But, for the average user 8 and 12 should be sufficient.

As for your question regarding power consumption, it could be more. But, it could also be negated by reduced app reloads. I wouldn’t worry about power consumption. Your display, network modem, and the SoC are one of the biggest sources of battery drain. Ram hardly adds much to the equation.

delta ,

I can maybe see it for running an incredibly skimmed down open source LLM, but even then RAM isn’t the biggest limitation. That’s just such a bizarrely niche use case. Almost nobody needs 24GB of RAM in their phone right now. Emulation is a niche case I can see being a little more reasonable. Still insane.

Tykin , in What's something that was dismissed as a gimmick but you liked?

PIE navigation control

keanu0396 ,

Oh man, I forgot that even existed! I used an app for it for quite a while, I didn’t realise how long it must have been since I used it

toothpaste_sandwich ,

Still using it myself, in fact! LMT is still going strong, though I imagine it would work better if I were able to root the phone I’m using at the moment.

to_urcite_ty_kokos , in [PSA] Oneplus phones on Android 11 are being artificially throttled but there is a fix.
@to_urcite_ty_kokos@lemmy.world avatar

Won’t be the app back after a system update? 🤔

kimagure ,

If their phone stuck in Android 11 in 2023, I doubt there will be any updates from OnePlus.

breakerfall , in Google Pixel 8 leak points to desktop mode support, DisplayPort over USB-C

I’ll believe it when I see it. Took them 8 versions to do something that’s in AOSP?

iturnedintoanewt ,

… Something the chipset supports. They actually removed the code that enabled it on the Pixel phones, it’s kinda ridiculous.

MrGeekman , in Are you guys pumped for the Asus Zenfone 10?

Has Asus’ build quality improved? I read that it tanked after Lenovo bought the company.

GeneralChaz9 ,

I think you’re mixing these up; Lenovo bought Motorola.

EDIT: Oh, you double posted. Lol

MrGeekman ,

Yeah, I’ve been beta-testing a Lemmy app on my iPhone and it’s not perfect and it had an issue which caused me to accidentally double- and triple-post.

NickHackman , in Google Pixel 8 leak points to desktop mode support, DisplayPort over USB-C
@NickHackman@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a cool feature, but I don’t know when I’d need/want it.

Anyone who uses Samsung Dex do you use it often? When? Why?

Batbro ,

I keep a lapdock in a quick go bag for the weekend or when I’m at my desk without my computer.

I like dex, 80% of my computer usage is just Internet or quick server commands.

My wife handles her YouTube channel 100% from her phone and having the option for a bigger screen for some task is great.

I never understood why Google disabled display out via USBC, it comes built in on most chips.

Drinvictus ,

I use Samsung Dex as a daily driver basically. I’m a doctor and I use it to review patient charts on Epic. I also fully transitioned to Google docs+reworks for working on publications. It’s so easy to set up wherever I go. Amazing battery life and incredibly lightweight.

gk99 ,

Tbh I usually just use it to play games on a bigger screen with a Bluetooth controller when I'm bored, Nintendo Switch style. There are plenty of console-style mobile games + streaming services that can make it a pretty good time killer if I'm the only one in a waiting room or something.

limeaide , in What's your most favorite android games right now?

Bloons TD 6

toototabon ,
@toototabon@lemmy.ml avatar

oh! is there a BTD6 community on lemmy yet?

the discussions, memes, and strats were interesting on the r/.

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