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bradboimler , in eSim or Physical Sim?

I’ve transitioned to eSIM with no plans for going back

Majestix OP ,

What’s your reasons for that?

bradboimler ,

I didn’t feel physical SIMs brought me any benefits. Nor do I feel an eSIM has any downsides. The industry is slowly moving towards eSIMs anyway, so…

lyricanna , in Google Drive video uploads now have auto-generated captions

I mean, if google wants to set their money on fire by having multiple data centers running full force to apply “AI” to everything without people asking or any way to profit from it, that’s on them.

I would complain about how much energy this is wasting in light of climate change, but this is innately unsustainable. Google will either widen up, or go bankrupt from the insane expense increase, given this doesn’t make them any money.

tiredofsametab , in eSim or Physical Sim?

My main sim is a normal sim. When I travel, I get an esim for that country. My current provider doesn't so esim or I might consider the opposite

Untrending , in eSim or Physical Sim?

Physical for your main contract, esim for traveling

Hule , in I want to move to a degoogled rom, what do I need to know?

I had two Moto phones and loved those gestures. I have tried an app to get them working on Samsung phones, but it wasn’t reliable.

My bank’s app works on GrapheneOS but not on LineageOS.

Graphene only works on Pixel phones, right?

PennyJim OP ,
@PennyJim@lemmy.world avatar

Graphene only works on Pixel phones, right?

Does it? I’ve only heard of it, not done even a lick of research yet.

pr0927 ,

Yes it only works on Pixel phones. For other devices I recommend looking at DivestOS, CalyxOS, and LineageOS - in that order from best to worst insofar as de-Googling and privacy are concerned.

unrushed233 , in I want to move to a degoogled rom, what do I need to know?
kyub , in I want to move to a degoogled rom, what do I need to know?

Long-time GrapheneOS user here.

Can’t say anything about Motorola gestures.

Banking apps MIGHT not all work on GrapheneOS, if unsure check first, or ask on the GrapheneOS forum. I forgot the reasons but it’s probably something stupid like the banking app blocking any non-“Google-sanctioned” Android versions via the Play Integrity DRM kind of feature. It sucks, especially because GraphneOS is way more secure and private than any commercial Android, but what can you do, bad decisions are being done all the time.

GrapheneOS is my recommendation, it’s easy to install and can be used by tech-illiterate people as well because almost none of its security and privacy enhancing features require any special configuration work from the user or require advanced knowledge, it all happens mostly in the background with good default settings. Even for tech-savvy people this has the advantage of not requiring any tinkering or maintenance work, it feels like using any proprietary Android, just hardened and much more privacy-friendly.

You should still maybe be aware of these potential minor issues:

  • Some apps might refuse to work on any “unsanctioned” Android version via the Play Integrity thing, but so far this seems to be very rare (thankfully). If you find any, make sure to tell the developers that they should stop doing that.
  • Some apps might simply require Google Play services to be installed. On GrapheneOS, you can install them via the “Apps” app, and they will be slightly less terrible than they are on any other Android because they won’t run with full system rights, but instead they’ll be sandboxed and can be completely shut down by using the standard permissions system, which the user is blocked from doing on proprietary Android systems. But then again, if you must use them, then of course they’re going to require Network permission and they’ll use that to phone home to Google, as they always do on standard Androids as well. So it’s not recommended to install any proprietary apps from Google on top of GrapheneOS. Even though on Graphene, the amount of things an app is allowed to do is more limited compared to the huge amount of data an app can read and phone home on a propreitary Android system.
  • Some apps include certain widgets like Google maps which, again, require the respective app or Play services app to be installed as well. Depending on how these apps are written, they might simply fail completely when this dependency is not there. But so far, I’ve had luck, and some apps I’ve used which integrate a Google maps widget still worked without it. So it depends on the app and the quality of its developers.
  • When not having the Google play services installed (default), you won’t have access to Google’s push notification system in the cloud. Some apps, even some privacy-respecting apps like Signal, rely on that. Signal will work without, but then it uses a power-inefficient alternative based on websockets instead, which means Signal without Google play services drains your battery faster than it would otherwise. There are ways around this by using the Molly fork of Signal (Signal is open source and there is at least this one fork often being used as well) with the open source app “ntfy” and an either self-hosted or a privacy-respecting ntfy server instance somewhere to go along with it, which will then act as your own push notification server in the cloud. So you don’t need to contact Google’s stuff for that, and less connections overall to Google equals more privacy overall.
  • If you do decide to install the Google play services app on Graphene, make sure to allow it to run in the background. But, again, it’s not recommended to use any proprietary Google apps/services.
  • Once you have Graphene installed, be sure to use its integrated browser called Vanadium (a hardened Chromium fork) to download and install an “app store” of your choice. When I first started out, I installed the F-Droid apk first, then from within it Aurora as a Play Store client. Giving me access to a lot of open source and Play Store apps, respectively. F-Droid unfortunately has some potential disadvantages, which is why I recommend using Obtainium instead of the F-Droid client (you’ll still access the F-Droid repository sometimes because some APKs of open source apps are only hosted there, but at least you’ll avoid potential issues with the F-Droid frontend application then). Using Obtainium instead of F-Droid will be slightly more work at the beginning when compiling your needed open soruce applications, but afterwards it’s just as easy.
  • Make sure to configure a privacy-friendly and ad/tracker-blocking DNS server, as well as something like RethinkDNS or NetGuard Pro to control which apps are allowed to contact which hosts/IPs. Otherwise, while Graphene itself won’t violate your privacy, many apps will still do that (especially proprietary apps often contain several trackers).
  • If you need tutorial videos on how to install or initially configure Graphene, or Obtainium, watch the youtube channel “Side of Burritos”, excellent content.

If any of that sounds scary, it shouldn’t be. Most of these issues are really minor and it’s unlikely that you’ll be too negatively impacted by any of it, so give Graphene a try without Google services. There are great open source apps out there for all sorts of functionality. Just felt I should mention any potentially small pitfalls.

Other Android variants or ROMs are inferior to GrapheneOS in terms of security and privacy, unfortunately, so it’s best to buy a cheap Pixel (8th generation recommended due to strong hardware-based security) and install Graphene on it. Otherwise you’ll miss out on Graphene’s very strong security and privacy features. There are some other privacy and security oriented Android variants like Calyx or /e/OS or things like that, or even LineageOS, but they all, again, don’t reach up to Graphene’s level of security and privacy.

HTH

PennyJim OP ,
@PennyJim@lemmy.world avatar

I somewhat recently got my current phone, so I’m not yet willing to buy another, but I’ll keep that in mind. As well as Obtainium, as that sounds better than the fdroid app I have right now.

Sounds like I’ll be missing out on the most private ROM though :(

(Also what’s HTH?)

Adda ,
@Adda@lemmy.ml avatar

(Also what’s HTH?)

Happy to help.” or “Hope it helps.

lemmyvore ,

Obtainium is usually for getting apps directly from their development page, like straight from GitHub. It’s best reserved for apps that don’t bother with F-Droid, or to get them faster.

If you need a replacement for the F-Droid app there are alternatives like Foxy Droid, Neo Store, F-Droid Classic etc.

jasep , in I want to move to a degoogled rom, what do I need to know?

Fellow Moto chop and twist gestures 💪🏻

Fisch , in I want to move to a degoogled rom, what do I need to know?
@Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I can at least tell you that Mihon will work just fine, it’s a FOSS app but sadly not available on F-Droid

Cincinnatus , in How come android headunits in a car boot up so fast despite being very under powered compared to phones these days ?

I think the phone just has to do more stuff

MajorHavoc , in How come android headunits in a car boot up so fast despite being very under powered compared to phones these days ?

They don’t have as much background software recording everything and phoning home.

Give it time, and they may get there.

Source: I’m just bullshitting. I don’t know jack shit about what runs on a new car. I don’t buy new cars.

But my DeGoogled phone boots really fast, so I might still be right, unfortunately.

skullgiver ,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

They don’t have as much background software recording everything and phoning home.

They do.

In fact, in some ways they’re worse. At least you can pull the SIM card out of your phone without power tools.

skuzz , in eSim or Physical Sim?

eSIM works until it doesn’t. Carriers in the US have had eSIM phones fall off the network when their activation servers fail, or bill data usage incorrectly on eSIM lines, among other weird issues. It’s a way too fragile technology that adds more problems than it attempts to solve.

catloaf , in How come android headunits in a car boot up so fast despite being very under powered compared to phones these days ?

There’s actually a documentation article on this: source.android.com/docs/automotive/…/boot_time

Basically, there’s just much less stuff running on Android Auto.

dual_sport_dork ,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

That, and don’t many of these not actually fully turn off when you shut off the car? They draw 12v standby power and keep their RAM active, just going into a sleep or suspend mode rather than powering off fully so waking up happens pretty much instantly. It’s like the difference between hard powering off your phone vs. just putting the screen to sleep.

That’s how the head unit installed in my car works, anyways.

alphacyberranger OP ,
@alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works avatar

Won’t this eat up the car battery in long term?

dual_sport_dork ,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

Theoretically yes, if you leave it long enough. But it really isn’t much power draw so probably, like, decades. I think the battery might self-discharge and sulfate by then regardless. And this is nothing new; oldschool radios have a nonzero idle draw as well to keep their clocks running and remeber all your radio stations. I imagine the milliamps required aren’t that much different.

Modern cars have all kinds of standby shit constantly drawing power to check in, keep time, phone home, blink lights, listen for the remote, etc., etc. all the time regardless. The audio system is really only one small piece of that whole puzzle.

alphacyberranger OP ,
@alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works avatar

That does make sense.

ExtremeDullard , in What rooting method do you use?
@ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I look forward to Australians answering that one…

Hedlosa ,

Yep as soon as I saw the title I did a double take… but it’s 7am here and I cbf thinking of a clever answer so early in the morning

I_Miss_Daniel ,

Just plug it in. If it doesn’t work, unplug it and plug it in again. You might have to repeat this 1023 times before the system is successfully rooted.

skullgiver , in How come android headunits in a car boot up so fast despite being very under powered compared to phones these days ?
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

The OS offers fewer services. That means developing for Android Auto is more work, some app features simply don’t work, and maintainance is even worse than on normal Android. Who needs Doze power saving when you’ve got a few dozen liters of fuel in the back? The stuff that it doesn’t do can sometimes be done by a connected phone instead, which also saves the CPU of the head unit some cycles.

Plus, the OS can be designed for fast boot. Android generally isn’t. How often do you even reboot your phone? The important part is that once it’s running, it doesn’t suck down too much power. It doesn’t really matter if it takes 30 seconds to boot because that’s 30 seconds every month. A car needs to start and be ready to use in seconds.

The infotainment screen also contains a lot of stuff that it doesn’t need to load anything for because it’s handled by another CPU running elsewhere in the car. Your infotainment system isn’t usually controlling your speedometer, window wipers, or AC, it just provides a button that sends a network packet to a bunch of other computers that take care of the featurea for you. Turning on your car actually turns on a dozen of tiny computers.

Also, your infotainment system isn’t hooked up to a 3000mAh battery. It can suck down voltage like crazy compared to phones or tablets. Outfit a mobile CPU from a few years ago with a heat sink and disable power savings and that thing will suddenly become tolerable.

Lastly, not every head unit is that fast. I’ve been in cars that took full minutes to get to a state where navigation would allow input. Android Auto and Carplay units may be slow, but they’re lightning fast compared to what car manufacturers would put in their cars if it weren’t for Big Tech’s hardware requirements.

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