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PSA: Grayjay is really good

cross-posted from: sopuli.xyz/post/15242858

Saw Louis Rossmans original video on the app and figured (and it may well have been) it would be buggy and awful at that point. Decided to gike it a try, the app has all the options I could want for watching youtube, it’s multiplatform to a much greater degree than Newpipe and it’s forks.

The reason I don’t ever expect to go back to Newpipe or Libretube is the plugins update through the app, meaning I can get bypasses to YouTubes bullshit as fast as they’re developed.

Newpipe is usually updated quickly, but in my experience forks like Tubular that include sponsorblocks often delay me from getting that update.

Overall, very good experience so far!

SkaveRat ,

Even I tried it at release, it wasn’t usable when you had a lot of subscriptions. Gave up after a couple weeks of trying it

Did they manage to fix this?

MaXimus421 ,
@MaXimus421@lemmy.world avatar

Options are good.

Ilandar ,

Hopefully being a paid app developed full-time by FUTO allows it to be worked on for a long time to come.

possiblylinux127 ,

Stop promoting non foss software. There are plenty of foss apps

voracitude ,

No. GrayJay is good and I’m glad I gave FUTO money for two licenses because it is worth paying for; “free” does not necessarily mean “as in dollars”.

Also, did the irony of issuing orders to strangers in the very same attempt to “defend” (and I am being generous with that word) the ideals of free and open source software, not give you the slightest pause before posting?

possiblylinux127 , (edited )

It isn’t free software as in it doesn’t have a license that respects the 4 freedoms. If it was under a license that granted its users the irrevocable right to run, study, modify and distribute the source code without restriction then it would be considered foss.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

It’s free software as in, it’s free. You can continue mumbling your nonsense in the corner of course, the rest of us have bigger issues than whether someone we don’t actually know can use word “free” like everybody else.

possiblylinux127 ,

The free software definition can be found here:

www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

I have no issue paying for software or donating. What concerns me is the restrictions on the source code. I think Grayjay is popular simply because some YouTube star made it.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Or maybe because it’s good? Have you tried the Occam’s Razor thing? You need to realize that by and large, users could not possibly care any less about source code available if you gave them money for it.

And the software has upsides. Compared to NewPipe (what I had before):

  • Updates in finite time after Youtube breaks something.
  • Can actually log in with your youtube account, directly accessing your subscriptions and so on, instead of having go through the complicated export/unzip/import process every time you change your subscriptions and want to resync them.
  • Includes more sources, and pretty heterogenuous ones at that. Nice all-in-one app.

And keep in mind, nobody who is not a gnu cares whether for some hyper-specific context that this post is not in, “free” can mean the sourcecode is freely available. The english language already uses the word “free” in everyday parlour, and if you use english, you know those uses. One of which being “costs you nothing”. Trying to argue around that just makes people less likely to care about source code availability because frankly, you’re being a dick to people for no bloody reason.

Ilandar ,

I guess you’re unfamiliar with that user but basically their entire Lemmy existence is just arguing with people about the things they own or use because “my thing is better”. They are very active in privacy communities and constantly start pointless arguments by being needlessly oppositional whenever someone dares to recommend or even discuss something that they don’t personally use. I don’t think it’s trolling or bad faith, I think they just genuinely have real difficulty seeing the world from any point of view other than their own. Hence this idea that Grayjay can’t possibly have users because people enjoy using it - there must be some other explanation, like that we’re all Louis Rossmann fans.

Scary_le_Poo ,
@Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org avatar

People like you are the worst enemy of open source, and you really think that you’re a staunch ally. It’s really Fucking sad.

seaQueue ,
@seaQueue@lemmy.world avatar

It would be really helpful if grayjay could register as a YouTube.com link handler, that’s the only thing stopping me from using it most of the time

Drathro ,

I’ve got it opening YouTube links by default… At least from within other apps. In Firefox I can also hit “open in app” and it pops right up. Casting works too.

seaQueue ,
@seaQueue@lemmy.world avatar

Huh, odd. I can’t get it to open YouTube links on any of my devices. I guess I’ll have to investigate.

Edit: ahh, the play store version doesn’t support link handling

Drathro ,

Ooooh okay. Yeah, I avoided the playstore version. I’m pretty sure I had read somewhere early on that the Playstore version would lack features or otherwise be behind in some ways due to complying with certain Google specific requirements to be allowed on the storefront. Kind of like KDEConnect.

Scolding7300 ,

If I open the link from Discord it goes straight to NewPipe for some reason but worka through the browser, dunno why

ColeSloth ,

Yeah. GrayJay has been my go to for almost a year now. There’s been some bugs, but they’ve gotten most of it worked out. It isn’t perfect, but it’s definitely worth using.

lemann ,

I use the Tubular fork as well, love it, however the dev has life things that slow down how fast fixes get merged in ☹️ in the meantime I either watch Nebula (or use Freetube on my HTPC as a backup, they tend to publish a fixed build ridiculously fast).

My fav Grayjay feature has to be “polycentric” comments on Nebula videos, pretty cool to discuss with other Nebula subscribers seeing as the official app has no social features

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