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WillardHerman ,
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Because, there is no such think as sanity.

Hazdaz ,

Because it’s all nonsense.

Drusas ,

"Peak" implies it is currently at its maximum and will go down from here. That is incorrect. We still need more mental health services for people and for those services to be affordable.

bionicjoey ,

Yeah what an insane false premise. Setting aside the US, which is a shitshow, almost no countries with publicly funded healthcare include mental healthcare under that system.

circuitfarmer ,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I had a call with a government agency recently about benefits. I was asked why I didn’t seek therapy.

I told the truth. My benefits did not include therapy. It was not financially viable for me to seek therapy.

Government worker had nothing in their script for that and simply said nothing and moved on to the next question.

It is maddening that we as a society are expected to play dumb about the shortcomings of our government.

TimewornTraveler ,

We haven’t even begun to peak. So many people are entering the field. So much more awareness and acceptance of mental health is being cultivated. So many more people are going to be getting care. We haven’t peaked. We haven’t even begun to peak.

cowfodder ,

Because gestures to everything

Astroturfed ,

It’s almost like things are so fucked for most people that therapy isn’t going to fix it. Might help you cope a bit…

transientpunk ,
@transientpunk@sh.itjust.works avatar

Broadly gestures at everything

mateomaui ,

I submit that’s it’s impossible for us to have reached peak therapy when there’s such a shortage of mental health professionals available.

TheaoneAndOnly27 ,

What's worse is that those of us who are qualified, have the degrees, were working before, and are reentering the field, are stuck behind delayed bureaucratic bullshit. Like all of my stuff has gone through, and it's been 6 months. I can't start working until they take it to a board meeting and then vote on approving all of the applications at once. It's Fucking stupid.

mateomaui ,

Yes, this is infuriating, along with your struggle to get paid by insurance companies, etc, or make other such tough decisions that may make you available to fewer patients because of similar bureaucratic tape. It’s all a mind fuck for everyone involved. Peak therapy, my ass.

TheaoneAndOnly27 ,

Oh man, exactly! The public insurance (here it's oregon health plan) The amount of bullshit you have to go through for 1/3 of the reimbursement you'd get from a private insurance or a cash pay makes it so there are less and less providers who are willing to jump through the hoops. I once got a group note kicked back from insurance because "no group starts exactly on time". The group was at 5:00, person was there before hand.... Group of 12 people. Another time I marked all as attending at 5:01, but nope. That got all kicked back because there was "no way everyone showed up at the same time". So I tried explaining to my supervisor how absurd it was because I can only bill for the group time 5-6 pm, so would every client have to show up late, and not all leave at 6:00 pm as well?

So in 2021 I said fuck it, I need a year off.

mateomaui ,

I clenched my jaw so hard reading that asinine situation that I felt my ears pop. Just unreal.

Maybe “peak therapy” means they’ve created peak conditions for everyone to need therapy. That would make sense.

Therapists needing therapy from trying to provide therapy to others. The circle of therapy🎵🎵

stepbro ,
@stepbro@lemmy.world avatar

Therapeutic circlejerk

mateomaui ,

You forgot the 🎶🎵🎶

Maeve ,

Affordable, quality therapists, at least.

mateomaui ,

I mean, yes you are right, but even if you don’t narrow it down and are willing to talk to whomever will listen, there’s still not enough. Can take months to get an 1st time appointment in some places.

Maeve ,

Yes.

zcd , (edited )

I wonder if it could have anything to do with this apocalyptic hellscape we’re living in courtesy of the ruling class?

pdxfed ,

No, it’s probably personal failings of a few hundred million people. The systems are great

CarlsIII ,

Maybe because they jumped the gun on declaring things “peak therapy.”

Conyak ,

Because of late stage capitalism and climate dread. There is no longer hope for the future.

Gargantu8 ,

Agree with your two concerns wholeheartedly but never appropriate to give up hope. Hang in there please!

PopOfAfrica ,

I think or of absolutely reasonable to give up hope on climate change. Its too late to stop it. We are now living in it.

Gargantu8 ,

That’s a fair point for sure. It’s definitely going to get a lot worse and there’s no changing that (just the extent I suppose). However, there’s still always hope no matter what.

Drusas ,

I've always appreciated a short dialogue from the show Monk.

Monk: I had hope. Isn't hope the worst?
Natalie: No, Mr Monk. Hope is a good thing.
Monk: You're very young.

Gargantu8 ,

Thanks for sharing that’s admittedly still relatable despite my opinion!

jantin ,

“Hang in there” is not therapy, to me it’s infuriating if anything. I can list several well-grounded in reality reasons which made me lose hope. Random phrases are not changing either these reasons or my ability to adapt to them. At some point “hope” feels like self-delusion. But it’s nice to know others are not there yet.

Gargantu8 ,

Hmm. Well “hang in there” sure made me feel good when I heard it during cancer treatment when I at times thought all hope was lost, but here I am.

Hobbes ,

Republicans and climate change and income inequality.

Maeve ,

This seems like bipartisan greed, tbf.

deweydecibel ,

The price tag on that therapy, for one.

Legitimately, it’s one of sickest jokes about this country, that you can spend an hour with a therapist working on improving your mood, walk out of the session, and have it immediately undone when the receptionist tells you what the copay is.

TheaoneAndOnly27 ,

100% agree that it's fucked up, but also you should check on if there's some sort of a community counseling program. I know where I live they do community counseling and it's sliding scale down to $5. I really wish that was more places

Drusas ,

Those community counseling programs tend to be absolutely overwhelmed and have very long wait times.

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