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Workers in Japan can’t quit their jobs. They hire resignation experts to help

Asking to leave work on time or taking some time off can be tricky enough. Even trickier is tendering a resignation, which can be seen as the ultimate form of disrespect in the world’s fourth-biggest economy, where workers traditionally stick with one employer for decades, if not for a lifetime.

In the most extreme cases, grumpy bosses rip up resignation letters and harass employees to force them to stay.

Yuki Watanabe was unhappy at her previous job, saying her former supervisor often ignored her, making her feel bad. But she didn’t dare resign.

“I didn’t want my ex-employer to deny my resignation and keep me working for longer,” she told CNN during a recent interview.

Mandy ,

To me that isnt even the worst part of their godawfull worldculture.

Its that you have to sacrifice your private time too to go drinking or whatever with your boss so you can crawl up his ass like the good drone you are.

maniii ,

I think we have to have some context here.

Japan has I believe something called “tenured work position”.

It is literally a guaranteed job for life. The company can’t fire you and usually you will get paid till your retirement whether you work the job decently in your life.

I believe the term is Seisha-In ( japan-dev.com/blog/seishain )

anachronist ,

My understanding is that the employer side of this contract quit getting honored religiously during the lost decade and employment in Japan is increasingly contingent and precarious.

Obi ,
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I mean then it makes no sense, as a two way street I can see the appeal (kinda).

grue ,

How does the boss ripping up a resignation letter “force” them to stay? Are the employers falsifying the end of the employment as a firing for cause, or are the ex-employees going to get blackballed, or what?

Being an American who clearly doesn’t get their cultural hangups, which I assume is the whole problem, I don’t understand why they don’t just just video themselves handing over the resignation letter (or e-mail it, or mail it in with whatever kind of receipt Japan’s postal service offers, or fax it since Japan apparently still does that (LOL)) and then quit showing up.

I also don’t understand why, if it’s so hard to get bosses to “let” them leave, employees don’t just work-to-rule and leave after 8 hours, expectations be damned.

PlasticExistence ,

There was a scene in Back To The Future Part II (1989) where Marty’s Japanese boss fires him via fax in 2015.

It’s 2024 and the Japanese are still using faxes.

BakerBagel ,

Your doctor is still using fax as well. It’s much more secure than email and is the gold standard for confidential materials since it requires a physical wiretap to access.

Valmond ,

The culture is very different.

Imagine you are 9 years old, and you want to move away from your parents who are more on the violent side than on the nice listening side… Your little letter you hand crafted (because you know no one that had done it before personally, you just imagined you could, so you did your best) is now being ripped up by your angry father who skreams at you to go to your room!

What do you do?

SnotFlickerman ,
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…and their birth rate isn’t going to stop tanking until this kind of slave-driving bullshit changes.

Magister ,
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A typical 9-to-9 workday is the bare minimum.

I have seen this in France in the 90s, but more to the bare maximum, 8-8 or 9-9, without being paid overtime of course. Part of why I moved to Canada doing 9-5 or 8-4

UnsavoryMollusk ,

But they told me French works 35h per week ! /s

themoonisacheese ,
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… We do. I’d definitely resign from a place that expects me to spend 12 hours at work, and it’s illegal for the company for you to do too much overtime (the limit it 35 hours per year, doublable once if the employee asks the local authority in writing)

PlasticExistence ,

I really, truly love how little crap the French people will accept from their government and employers. Y’all do it right.

leisesprecher ,

I’m pretty sure that’s not legal.

My knowledge of the French labor laws is roughly 0, but France is not exactly known for having lax regulations in that regard.

And at least in Germany, it’s straight up illegal to work more than 10h a day.

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