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Still yet another article listing Reddit alternatives, but surprisingly this one mentions both Lemmy & Kbin

https://beebom.com/reddit-alternatives/

No Squabbles.io, Tildes, or Discuit, but somehow digs deep enough to find Saidit.net, Hive, Quora (IRK!?), 4Chan (spit-take: yes, you read that correctly), Imgur, Slashdot, and 9Gag (hey, I did not write this, alright?:-P), and # 15 is Digg!

You said you wanted to know if Kbin was mentioned in the media though, so here it is:-D.

flathead ,
@flathead@quex.cc avatar

It’s good to see Lemmy getting some love, athough I did get a chuckle at the “this whole fediverse concept is so hard to get your head around” stuff. They are so used to being fed what the algorithm delivers that they are lost without it. It’s so touchingly Orwellian.

OpenStars OP ,
@OpenStars@kbin.social avatar

Tbf, it is a bit difficult for the average person to wrap their head around.

For instance, did you know that water can come in multiple forms!? Woah... :-P

Sinnerman ,

“this whole fediverse concept is so hard to get your head around”

Respectfully, I think this is because join-lemmy.org is confusing. Here are the simple instructions I give people:

  1. Go to https://kbin.social/ and start reading.
  2. If you want to join, click "Log In" at the top, and then "Register"

Everything else they can figure out as they go along.

xc2215x ,

Makes sense since those are the two best alternatives.

1chemistdown ,
@1chemistdown@kbin.social avatar

They totally miss that kbin federates with lemmy and mastodon whereas Lemmy doesn’t microblog. Also, the list 4chan as a Reddit alternative and 4chan is a cesspool.

d4rknusw1ld ,

I honestly have no idea what the difference beteeen kbin and lemmy is. I’m on Lemmy; what the hell is kbin?

1chemistdown ,
@1chemistdown@kbin.social avatar

Lemmy is a community led content aggregator similar Reddit. Mastodon is a microblogging platform similar to twitter.

Kbin combines the functionality of both and federates with both. Think of it as twidder or rettit. Insert a smash up yourself.

Lemmy was created by a couple pro-China pro-Putin “communists” and one of them is full on genocide of Uyghurs is not happening because they do not consider them people.

Kbin was created by someone who wanted a place for friends.

Do with that information what you will.

d4rknusw1ld ,

Wait a god damn minute… this is the first time I’ve heard of this China crap. Also… is there a kbin app yet? Benefit of Lemmy is useful apps.

Alto ,
@Alto@kbin.social avatar

The Kbin API isn't public yet (though that's coming very soon), so as far as I'm aware there's no native Kbin apps as of yet. I know many Lemmy app developers have already said they're going to add Kbin compatibility once it's out, including the developer of Sync.

BionicHippo ,

There is an app that’s in beta testing for Kbin right now. It’s called Artemis and it’s really nice, even in the beta stage. I read there are plans for a public beta test soon.

1chemistdown ,
@1chemistdown@kbin.social avatar

@ArtemisApp is an app in beta right now by @harriet

As for lemmy. There is a lot to parse. It involves supporting tiananmen square massacre. Being kicked out of Reddit’s r/socialism for being too much for them in a militant way. That sub has pointed to many instances of support for genocide, how Russia is better off with Putin and how they’re defending their countries by killing any dissent. They’re known as tankies for their pro-tiananmen stance and how that saved China as a country.

Many defenders of lemmy say if that bothers you, just avoid their original instance or ones influenced/administered by them; but that both requires you to be aware of everything about them and all the lemmy instances,and it requires you to know that the instance you join has no further development by the creators of lemmy. Who updates the code? Who is the developer of this instance, and do they accept further stuff from the originators of this part of fedi.

Follow the rabbit hole

OpenStars OP ,
@OpenStars@kbin.social avatar

Plus isn't there a link to donate to the original developers on all Lemmy instances? The "Support Lemmy" one I mean, unless an admin has modified the source code to remove that I suppose, and continue to do so each time they receive an update. That seems to bother many people as well, even being on a different instance that the original creators do not administer personally.

livus ,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

I'm talking to you from kbin.social right now.

It's like a lemmy but with some different features. Like, I can read and interact with mastodon users a bit from here as well.

OpenStars OP ,
@OpenStars@kbin.social avatar

This article is posted from me with a kbin account, on a kbin magazine:-). The true beauty of the fediverse is that you need not care - like if I had a gmail account and you had a yahoo one, you could still receive the message despite being on entirely different servers.

Various Lemmy instances are part of the fediverse, and run the Lemmy code (various scripting languages - Rust, Actic, Diesel, Infero & Typescript). Each admin can do whatever, like modify the sourcecode, mess with their personal databases, etc., which can lead to different Lemmy instances using different versions of the sourcecode, which happened a few weeks ago and led to problems connecting when a new version became incompatible with the old.

Kbin is not a Lemmy instance though - it is a completely different implementation built from the ground up, in PHP & PostgreSQL - but it still uses ActivityPub so it can share with Lemmy the same as any Lemmy instance could. Meta (Facebook) will similarly implement ActivityPub in some manner and so also be able to communicate across the Fediverse. (Also as people are saying, Kbin also has implementation to share with Mastodon too while the Lemmy code does not.)

Unless an individual Lemmy - or a Kbin - instance wants that to not happen, i.e. to defederate, which is a whole other matter.

So:

  • instance = a particular machine (lemmy.ml or lemmy.world or beehaw or whatever);
  • Lemmy = code, or Kbin = different code, running on that instance, affecting what/how/etc.;
  • fediverse = everything that shares messages, like if one day a decade from now Reddit (may the spez have been fucked over MANY times before that day:-P) was forced to adopt ActivityPub and become a member in order to stay relevant, then it would become a part of it as well;
  • defederate = a specific blocking of messages from one instance to another (not necessary 2-way)

So if you thought of yourself as a Lemming/Lemmon/whatever before reading this comment, it is probably better to start thinking of yourself in terms of being a fedizen now - a member of the wider fediverse. You always were, you just did not know that yet:-).

Lemmylefty ,
@Lemmylefty@lemmy.world avatar

Offering 4chan up as an alternative to Reddit is like taking your cheat day from Doritos and ice cream to putting pubes you got from a Taco Bell toilet in your crack pipe.

1chemistdown ,
@1chemistdown@kbin.social avatar

Damn! I cannot get that imagery out of my mind; it’s suddenly seared onto my minds eye.

Well done

OpenStars OP ,
@OpenStars@kbin.social avatar

Somebody who works at a company that produces articles like that mentioned how the sponsor of the list always goes at the top - hence why the next option works so hard to say that kbin is not as good as the original Lemmy - while everything else is placed there to make the original one look good.

Like, who wouldn't look fantastic when compared to 4chan!? :-P

cheese_greater ,

You certainly paint quite a picture

SJ0 ,

list 4chan as a Reddit alternative and 4chan is a cesspool.

Well yeah, it’s a Reddit alternative.

😜

1chemistdown ,
@1chemistdown@kbin.social avatar

Okay, yeah. There is the cesspool there too, but we’re comparing nuclear bombs to rotten apples here.

OpenStars OP ,
@OpenStars@kbin.social avatar

Which one is which again? /s :-P

1chemistdown ,
@1chemistdown@kbin.social avatar

lol

Oliper202020 ,

I think reddit is the nuclear bomb🤣

OpenStars OP ,
@OpenStars@kbin.social avatar

Reddit = rotten nuclear bomb it is then!:-P

Oliper202020 ,

Well its definitely not wrong though

OpenStars OP ,
@OpenStars@kbin.social avatar

Tbf I think I forgot the former myself. It is a rather nice feature in theory but I think one that I do not make much use of, personally.

I do not think I ever want to find out about the latter though, I mean first-hand:-P.

Blaze ,
@Blaze@sopuli.xyz avatar

Nice!

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