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wahming , to technology in [❓] ChatGPT's fate hangs in the balance as OpenAI reportedly edges closer to bankruptcy

It’s kinda hilarious how many people are swallowing this article without any salt whatsoever.

boyi , to technology in [❓] ChatGPT's fate hangs in the balance as OpenAI reportedly edges closer to bankruptcy

Sorry to say, I would take this with grain of salt. Not making profits is part of business model of these pioneering companies. Google, Amazon and Uber (etc) were in the negatives for so many years and they absorbed the losses in order to be the dominant brands where at the end users become dependent on them. At that point they’ll start to charge exorbitantly and forcefully add unneeded features that will exert more control upon their users but there’s nothing that they can do but pay, for the simple fact that they can’t do without them.

autotldr Bot , to android in Microsoft won’t say if Surface Duo is getting any more Android OS releases

This is the best summary I could come up with:


If you’ve been holding out hope that Microsoft was gearing up to ship a big update for Surface Duo at some point this year, I think it might be time to let that boat sail.

The company has seemingly gone radio silent on all things Surface Duo, providing “nothing to share” responses to any questions asked about the product.

Existing Surface Duo 2 customers will continue to get monthly security updates between now and October 2024, but whether or not the company plans to deliver any more major Android OS versions is another question entirely.

This would have been a chance for Microsoft to reassure existing users that they hadn’t been abandoned, but the company decided to issue yet another “nothing to share” comment.

Before active development on Surface Duo OS stopped, the company was working on a handful of new features that would have shipped on top of Android 12L.

These new features included a new Windows 365-powered Continuum mode, which would let you log in to a Cloud PC when plugging the Surface Duo into an external display.


I’m a bot and I’m open source!

justalittleguy ,

It’s so weird that Continuum mode didn’t make it, but the Lenovo ThinkPhone seems to be getting it.

victron , to technology in [❓] ChatGPT's fate hangs in the balance as OpenAI reportedly edges closer to bankruptcy
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That was a quick bubble

BurgerPunk ,
@BurgerPunk@hexbear.net avatar

These new schemes seem to burst more and more quickly. I’m pretty sure someone wrote something about it in some books i wish I’d read so I’d understand this phenomenon thinkin-lenin

victron ,
@victron@programming.dev avatar

People already forgot about those stupid chimp pictures. Except for the idiots that bought them.

BurgerPunk ,
@BurgerPunk@hexbear.net avatar

To be fair i think part of that is because people don’t even realize you can use multiple juices on a single ape

UlyssesT ,

To be fair i think part of that is because people don’t even realize you can use multiple juices on a single ape

This remains evergreen for me. chefs-kiss

Topdog , to technology in [❓] ChatGPT's fate hangs in the balance as OpenAI reportedly edges closer to bankruptcy

Good

Fuckass , to technology in [❓] ChatGPT's fate hangs in the balance as OpenAI reportedly edges closer to bankruptcy

Capitalists are so efficient with the allocation of resources that they can go bankrupt after partnering/ ring acquired by Microsoft

Sinonatrix ,

be “”“worth”“” 2.7T

unable to afford world’s most hyped research project despite it burning less than 1b

Is this IBMification or whatever tech bros are calling late capitalism now

DefinitelyNotAPhone , to technology in [❓] ChatGPT's fate hangs in the balance as OpenAI reportedly edges closer to bankruptcy

Company whose business model is based entirely on running an enormously massive and expensive LLM and then serving content with it publicly for free with no greater ideas on actually turning that into a business is going under. In other news, water still wet.

I’ll admit I thought the AI bubble was going to last longer than a few months (and inevitably FAANG will probably artificially extend it until even they have to admit there’s not a ton of productive real world uses for it), but I suppose late stage capitalism has to speedrun the boom-bust cycle as it gets increasingly desperate for profit.

RubberDucky ,

And instead of trying to make it use less resources to run, unlike Llama tries, openai just makes a new gpt that needs even more resources

Durotar ,
@Durotar@lemmy.ml avatar

openai just makes a new gpt that needs even more resources

If they have investors who are paying for that, I see no problem. Operating at loss is not newsworthy nowadays, this is new reality.

somename ,

Well, AI is still going to be a buzzword for capitalists to throw around, as it does actually have uses and big profit usages in certain fields. Just, like, it’s certain fields. Then the grifters will continue to try to extrapolate that success to increasingly far removed use cases, with increasingly stupid promises.

HKayn ,
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It has found a few legitimate uses though, hasn’t it? GitHub Copilot comes to mind, although the legal implications of it are up in the air.

blkpws ,

Well, I suppose they made it public because they needed testers, and with that data is how they improve ChatGPT.

mojo , to technology in [❓] ChatGPT's fate hangs in the balance as OpenAI reportedly edges closer to bankruptcy

They also didn’t design ChatGPT to be power efficient at all, so that’s bloating up their operating costs a ton.

Sinonatrix ,

GitHub has been handing out a lot of free Azure time to open source projects, maybe they thought keeping “Open” in the name would work for longer?

facow ,
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Haha that would be Microsoft just shifting money from one pocket to the other. GitHub, Azure and (effectively) OpenAI are all Microsoft

Snapz , to technology in [❓] ChatGPT's fate hangs in the balance as OpenAI reportedly edges closer to bankruptcy

Has this always been the plan? For one of the big tech companies to acquire them with less of a negative press hit/backlash?

library_napper , to technology in [❓] ChatGPT's fate hangs in the balance as OpenAI reportedly edges closer to bankruptcy
@library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

If they go bankrupt, what happens to their IP? Does it suddenly become public domain?

8ace40 ,

I think it would be auctioned and sold to the highest bidder.

deFrisselle , to technology in [❓] ChatGPT's fate hangs in the balance as OpenAI reportedly edges closer to bankruptcy
@deFrisselle@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

MS will buy it all at the fire sale for cheap then integrate it deeply into Bing, Windows, etc

cloudy1999 ,

Did somebody say fire sale?

saud , to technology in [❓] ChatGPT's fate hangs in the balance as OpenAI reportedly edges closer to bankruptcy

I really don’t understand how this is possible when Microsoft has invested billions into OpenAI

atticus88th ,

All it takes is a couple of dudes to buy a couple of yachts, private planes maybe another home or two. And poof. Its gone.

Jessper ,

It isn’t. The article is obviously wrong.

Peanutbjelly ,

And you are the only voice of reason in this thread.

“Make up shit that makes OpenAI look bad” is like tech article gold right now. The amount of times i am seeing “look what ChatGPT said!!!” As if prompter intention is completely irrelevant to model output.

Objectivity doesn’t exist anymore. It’s just really popular to talk shit about ai right now.

Like when Altman effectively said “we should only regulate models as big or bigger than ours, we should not regulate small independent or open source models and businesses” to Congress, which was followed by endless articles saying “Sam Altman wants to regulate open source and stamp out smaller competition!”

I have no love for how unopen they’ve become, but at least align criticisms with reality please.

Uncle_Bagel ,

Burning through billions of investors money isnt the same as being profitable. The Silicon Valley gravy train is over, and investors are actually demanding to start seeing returns on their investments.

tourist , to technology in [❓] ChatGPT's fate hangs in the balance as OpenAI reportedly edges closer to bankruptcy
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How do I approach a VC firm about losing all their money in a big spectacle? Seems to be all the rage these days.

cwagner ,

By asking for it about 1-2 years ago when they all had more money than they knew what to do with ;)

McCainRBGcreampie , to technology in [❓] ChatGPT's fate hangs in the balance as OpenAI reportedly edges closer to bankruptcy
@McCainRBGcreampie@hexbear.net avatar

I hope this means Sam Altman disappears.

nephs ,

You mean “disappears”?

McCainRBGcreampie ,
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donuts , to technology in [❓] ChatGPT's fate hangs in the balance as OpenAI reportedly edges closer to bankruptcy
@donuts@kbin.social avatar

AI as a business is already running on fumes, and it's going to become even more expensive once intellectual property law catches up to them. We can only hope that the AI bubble bursting doesn't take the entire market economy down with it...

Taako_Tuesday ,

At this point there are so many bubbles, the question is which one will burst first

GlitzyArmrest ,
@GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world avatar

Didn’t the tech bubble burst already?

borlax ,
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Or we can hope that it does take the entire market economy down with it…

donuts ,
@donuts@kbin.social avatar

I mean, I get you, but personally I don't really like the idea of millions of innocent people losing their homes and most of their savings because some fucking dweebs decided to put all of our collective wealth in legally dubious automatic junk "content" generators. I've lived through enough crashes to know that it's never the big guys that get fucked when everything goes tits up, it's us, our parents, our grandparents, etc.

borlax ,
@borlax@lemmy.borlax.com avatar

Yeah status quo is the only reason to not throw caution to the wind and burn the whole thing down. It’s why nothing will ever get better.

Sinnerman ,
mojo ,

Well it doesn’t help that ChatGPT is unoptimized as fuck with like 185b parameters for 3.5, and somewhere in the trillions for 4

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