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doublejay1999 , (edited ) to world in West Must Be Prepared For War With Russia, NATO Official Warns Ahead Of Major Military Drills
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We have to realize it’s not a given that we are in peace. And that’s why we [NATO forces] are preparing for a conflict with Russia," Dutch Admiral Rob Bauer, the NATO military committee chief, said in Brussels ahead of the start of the alliance’s largest exercise since the end of the Cold War.

Keen students of logic maybe observe the flaw in the Admirals argument : A vulnerable peace is not strengthened by preparing for war.

Carry on, Sailor.

Edit :

Oh my , what have we here :

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How very odd

SkybreakerEngineer ,

Keen students of logic may observe the flaw in the poster’s argument: militaries don’t exist to keep the peace, they exist for the contingency in which it fails. Being prepared for war is literally their job.

Deceptichum ,
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Uh that’s a bit rich.

Many militaries have been used for aggressive action, they are not purely defensive.

Windex007 ,

Keen students of logic will notice you’ve refuted the argument using a dubious naked assertion.

doublejay1999 ,
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Even you must see the irony in what you’ve written

Windex007 ,

The burden is on you to support your own assertions, there is no irony whatsoever in me pointing this out. Any keen student of logic would be familiar with this principle.

doublejay1999 ,
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You will understand that you are not the arbiter of what is or is not “dubious” surely ? And that what you deem “dubious” is, to less contrary people, self evident ?

Windex007 ,

Dubious means “suspect”, and what makes it “suspect” is the lack of any supporting argument. As a keen student of logic, I’m sure you must be familiar with this word and concept.

Justas ,
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“If you want peace, prepare for war.”

Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus, Roman general

doublejay1999 ,
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I don’t think peace was his area of expertise.

crackajack , to world in Ukraine Awaits Delivery Of First F-16 Jets In Coming Days As Kyiv Seeks To Counter Russian Air Superiority

Could people not hype the F-16 deliveries? The media hyping NATO wunderwaffes and Ukrainian counteroffensive, which failed to deliver expected outcomes, just played into Russian propaganda. Kremlin foresaw the axis of advance to be southern Ukraine because the Western freaking hype that that is where the likely axis for UAF. It lost the element of surprise! Compare this to 2022’s Kharkiv Oblast counteroffensive operation. Before, the media had been saying the war could become a long war, until they changed their script when Ukraine thunder run Kharkiv oblast and kicked out the Russians. Everyone then said Putin will be ousted by the end of 2022! That did not happen although Putin’s rule became delicately precarious.

Ukraine does better when their operational security is kept intact and when no one expects them to win. Okay there was the leak of counteroffensive plan but Western media hyping things up doesn’t help! Just stop with sensationalism!

barsoap ,

I wouldn’t drive hype either but those F-16s are some serious capability. Not really so much because they would be that much better airframes as what Ukrainians are already flying but because they can carry a metric fuckton of different NATO armaments that are currently sitting in warehouses that can’t be shipped to Ukraine because Ukraine wouldn’t be able to throw them at Russia, or only with questionable effectiveness – say, those air-to-air IRIS-T that Germany is sending over: They integrate into IRIS-T air defence but launched from the ground they’re very short-range^1^. Having F16 means that Ukrainians can also strap them to planes, with system integration close to that of an Eurofighter.


^1^ they don’t care about launch orientation at all, that’s their point you can launch them in the opposite direction upside down while spinning heavily and they’ll still find their target. But the air-to-air variants just carry less fuel

FrostyTrichs , to world in Ukraine Awaits Delivery Of First F-16 Jets In Coming Days As Kyiv Seeks To Counter Russian Air Superiority

Does anyone know what kind of timeline there might be before the pilots are trained to fly them? Is it something that might have an impact within days/weeks or is it going to be months before they can be used effectively?

Stamau123 OP ,

I’m pretty sure ukrainian pilots have already been trained. So they should be ready to use as soon as they’re delivered.

Rocketpoweredgorilla ,
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They’ve been training since at least August from what I’ve read. www.cnn.com/2023/08/20/world/…/index.html

MonkderZweite , to world in Guard At One Of Putin's Palaces Flees To Ecuador, Criticizes War And Kremlin Leader

He doesn’t have any intelligence to share?

cupcakezealot , to world in Russian Anti-War Activist Sentenced To Six Years In Prison For Internet Posts
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“This is fine” - tankies

Duke_Nukem_1990 , to worldnews in 'Simply Medieval': Russian Soldiers Held In Pits And Cellars For Refusing To Fight In Ukraine

Treatment as ancient as their equipment

Stamets , to world in West Must Be Prepared For War With Russia, NATO Official Warns Ahead Of Major Military Drills
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Yeah I’m trying

Mr_Blott ,

I’ve been practicing drinking vodka if that helps

QuinceDaPence , to world in Russian Parliament To Consider Seizing Property Of Citizens Who Criticize War

Hot take: when Russia totally disintegrates, the US should take it over and turn the whole thing into a national park.

And then as a bonus action stick a bunch of military bases right up Chinas ass.

Sir_Simon_Spamalot , to worldnews in Russian Anti-War Activist Sentenced To Six Years In Prison For Internet Posts

I’m more interested in her secret to staying young

sun_is_ra , to world in Iran's Repression Of Baha'is Amounts To 'Crime Against Humanity,' Says Rights Watchdog

Many middle eastern countries oppress bahahis, why Iran is singled out?

vind ,
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Because Iran has threatened Israel to stop the genocide in Gaza

ConditionOverload , to world in Putin Fears Navalny Funeral Could Trigger Mass Demonstrations, Khodorkovsky Says
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As if there’s anything real to fear for that election for Putin. Dude’s probably rigged it for his entire life. Not even sure what the point of this sentiment is.

NOT_RICK ,
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They’re not worried by the potential election results, they’re worried about mass protests overwhelming police forces’ ability to quell them.

ghostdoggtv , to world in Estonia Says Russia Is Preparing For A Military Confrontation With The West

Republicans are about to get completely swept out of office. It’s now or never.

DoomBot5 , to world in West Must Be Prepared For War With Russia, NATO Official Warns Ahead Of Major Military Drills

From what we’ve seen of Russia’s army. I think the US is ready. The only question remains, which branch of the military will achieve tactical superiority first. One could argue the Air Force because air superiority is usually one of the first things the US does, but the Navy might achieve that faster. Not to mention they could achieve water superiority even sooner by sinking the entire Russian navy.

Randomgal ,

People thought this about the US invasion of Afghanistan, and Vietnam, and… You get the point.

Altofaltception , to world in Russia Overtakes Saudi Arabia To Become Largest Supplier Of Oil To China

Given the sanctions against China, I’m surprised they were able to continue importing Saudi oil

lntl , to world in Ukraine Awaits Delivery Of First F-16 Jets In Coming Days As Kyiv Seeks To Counter Russian Air Superiority

now zelensky can hit putin at home

JackOfAllTraits ,
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What? How? F16 are good fucking planes but they are not strategic bombers…

lntl ,
  • fly to Moscow
  • blow it up
  • fly home

really simple actually

JackOfAllTraits ,
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Oh, right, makes perfect sense. I heard Russians had that simple of a plan too.

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