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bartolomeo , to worldnews in IDF Report Found Multiple Cases of Friendly Fire Deaths on Oct 7
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Let’s wait and see, Israel had said that it will not investigate incidents of friendly fire on Oct 7.

sub_ubi , to worldnews in IDF Report Found Multiple Cases of Friendly Fire Deaths on Oct 7

There’s a witness account where an Israeli citizen from one of the kibbutzim, locked in his safe room, describes getting a phone call from an IDF helicopter operator who asks, “Are there terrorists in your home? If so, I’m blowing up the house.”

In footage published by the biggest Israeli news site Ynet (Yediot) as well as by Israeli Channel 12, you can see Israeli helicopter operators opening fire on what they estimate as “300 targets” that day, including on people fleeing from the dance party, while they admit being unable to differentiate partygoers from Palestinian militants, saying Hamas operatives were instructed “to walk, in order to confuse” the Israeli Air Force, and that they were “in a dilemma, not knowing who to shoot, because there were so many.”

still the most complete report on oct 7th,

brooklynrail.org/2024/…/The-Gaza-Ghetto-Uprising

whyNotSquirrel ,
@whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works avatar

and that they [the Israeli Air Force] were “in a dilemma, not knowing who to shoot, because there were so many."

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/682af326-095b-4bd7-8ced-0f7af6cb3b37.jpeg

bartolomeo ,
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I had been wondering how so many cars got charred when Hamas was only armed with light weapons. I guess the answer is the Israeli Air Force.

queermunist , to worldnews in IDF Report Found Multiple Cases of Friendly Fire Deaths on Oct 7
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Hamas wanted hostages. Corpses are worthless at best and counterproductive at worst.

davel , to worldnews in UN Security Council Passes Gaza Ceasefire Resolution, US Abstains
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“We did not agree with everything with the resolution,” [US Ambassador] Thomas-Greenfield said. “Certain key edits were ignored, including our request to add a condemnation of Hamas.”

14 out of 15 members agree: fuck off with your but do you condemn Hamas.

StalinIsMaiWaifu , to worldnews in UNICEF Says Israel Has Killed Over 13,000 Children in Gaza
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This just in: UNICEF is Hamas

happybadger , to worldnews in UNICEF Says Israel Has Killed Over 13,000 Children in Gaza
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Joe Biden: The Lesser of Two Evils

tsonfeir , to worldnews in Air-Dropped Aid Crushes 5 Palestinians to Death in Gaza
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They ask “who is responsible?”

And the answer is, Israel.

naturalgasbad OP , to worldnews in US Military Advisors Deployed to Taiwan-Controlled Kinmen Islands on China's Coast

Kinmen is 10km from Xiamen on the Chinese mainland and 187km from Taiwan.

stmcld ,

Classic US, once again “not escalating” tensions.

ARk ,

No no, they are just there for a special field trip with their kids. China just happened to be nearby

FreudianCafe ,

No, you see, its actually China that puts their country too close to US millitary advisors. They should move China away or esse they are clearly escalating

narp ,

What’s your implication? That this island which belongs to Taiwan should be controlled by mainland China because it’s closer to it?

lnxtx , to worldnews in US Bombs Yemen for 9th Time, Houthis Attack US Commercial Ship
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Brent oil now: USD 82.36 (+ 2.13; + 2.65 %).

So good luck. Just end the genocide.

davel , to worldnews in US and Allies Release Statement Threatening Houthis Over Red Sea Attacks
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Doubledee , to worldnews in US and Allies Release Statement Threatening Houthis Over Red Sea Attacks
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No no you don’t understand! The proper way to attempt to address an ongoing genocide is to wring your hands and give more weapons to the people doing it. Doing anything proactive is bad form you silly geese.

biden-troll

tsonfeir , to worldnews in US and Allies Release Statement Threatening Houthis Over Red Sea Attacks
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Houthis? Houthat?

NullaFacies , (edited ) to worldnews in Over 1,000 Children in Gaza Have Had One or Both Legs Amputated Since Oct 7th
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While I believe this is true, be cautious with this site.

It’s known to post false information often.

Blackout , to worldnews in US has Delivered Over 10,000 Tons of Weapons to Israel Since October 7th
@Blackout@kbin.social avatar

That's over 28 pounds of weapons per Gaza resident.

winterayars ,

How many pounds has each US citizen paid for with their tax dollars, i wonder? How many people were killed? How much do you have to pay in taxes for that number to average out to >=1?

PanArab , to worldnews in US has Delivered Over 10,000 Tons of Weapons to Israel Since October 7th
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Palestinians live in refugee camps and don’t have a military or weapons industry, is this amount even necessary? This is good for Russia, because these weapons could have gone to Ukraine.

massive_bereavement ,
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That was the goal pushed by Iran. By putting the Russian Invasion in the background, Western support diluted and those that oppose it could do it openly while Putin's army goes full steam ahead of their elections.

PanArab ,
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Hamas is independent of Iran. Iran had no prior knowledge.

massive_bereavement ,
@massive_bereavement@kbin.social avatar

This says otherwise: https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/israel%E2%80%93hamas-war-iran-updates

I mean they have solid arguments, if you can provide similar sources or provable arguments I would appreciate it.

PanArab ,
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www.cnn.com/2023/10/11/politics/…/index.html

politico.com/…/u-s-and-israeli-officials-remain-u…

thedailybeast.com/hamas-officials-say-iran-helped…

Iran is helping Hamas financially and perhaps in some technical aspects, and nothing is wrong with tha. But not to the point of running Hamas or having prior knowledge of their operations.

massive_bereavement ,
@massive_bereavement@kbin.social avatar

You gotta read what you've shared: US gov said they can't trace a direct link to Iran, though there is clear evidence of coordination: https://www.npr.org/2023/10/10/1204789074/israel-hamas-hezbollah-iran

Ties are clear: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/13/world/middleeast/hamas-iran-israel-attack.html

Yes there's no public conspiratorial evidence in the attacks, and probably even if there was nobody wants this to escalate it into a full blown war.

Your point that Hamas is independent is challenging because there are clear links and both economic and material support comes from the Republic. That said, AFAIK (and I know very little) I've been told that their collaboration isn't hierarchical, so if Hamas decides to go in a blaze of glory, it could have been their own choice.

That said, while running the Syrian campaign Hamas had ties to other organization e.g. here, it seems that as the group shrank, their support base concentrated in Tehran (e.g. 1, 2).

What I refer mostly is this, while we can doubt the conclusions, the implications of Hamas being invited to Moscow, Bogdanov "unwavering support" and the common presence of certain materials made me think that even if neither Iran nor Russia had anything to do with it, they still had enough clarity given the support before the whole thing blew out.

PanArab ,
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Where has the ties been proven? It is not like we are seeing Iranian generals and politicians in Gaza Strip a la with US politicians in the Israeli regime.

If you asked me, I think Iran should be doing more to help Hamas, but to suggest that they planned the attack when they too were surprised by it is absurd, and reduces the indigenous Palestinian resistance to an Iran-affiliated militia.

massive_bereavement ,
@massive_bereavement@kbin.social avatar

Definitely not saying that they planned it, but that the relationship between Russia and Hamas, enabled by Iran, might had a role in enabling them to happen. My point comes mostly from here:
https://www.mei.edu/publications/essential-questions-about-russia-hamas-link-evidence-and-its-implications
(something tells me you didn't go through my links ;) )

In any case.. what do I know?

PanArab ,
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I think you don’t know why Palestinians fight. There’s a reason it was named Al-Aqsa Flood aljazeera.com/…/israeli-settlers-storm-al-aqsa-mo… and it isn’t the first time Hamas responds to Israel desecration of the Al-Aqsa Mosque.

Blaming Iran or Russia for Hamas’ actions proves you are high on US propaganda.

Krause ,
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if you want to understand war you should start by not reading understandingwar.org

sadreality ,

Ukraine is a small sacrifice to make for the holy war to able "better people get their land back"

Neato ,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

For defense? No. For extermination? Also no but it makes it more deniable.

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