Moved to Fediverse to get away from the data hoarding and selling that those types of companies partake in. Really hope most instances will defederate from threads and prevent Meta from collecting more data.
The only thing they can collect (as long as you aren’t on their services) are the things that are available for the entire world to see. So your comments, usernames etc. are already visible and they won’t get any of your personal data as that’s not known except to your instances admins.
They will collect or probably are already collecting. Even if everyone defederate from Threads, they can and will open a secret instance and get all the data without anyone knowing it
It depends a bit on what equipment you have, but at least with my gear I don’t see much even on individual 100s exposures until I post process to bring out what was captured.
What is that app possibly made of that it cant run on literally anything? It’s just an app for text and images. I dont get it, is it optimized like an actual potato?
What a stupid anti-human shit, I hate it. All my devices from 10 years ago are still perfectly fine and operational, and I can’t use them because of some people’s laziness. They are used on 1% devices not because they are necessarily bad or broken but because it’s impossible to use them now for arbitrary reasons.
Well, true. But it is more reasonable to hate the manufacturer who refused to update, not the app devs who would have to do more work for small gain. Or unofficially update your own device, if possible.
Mobile devices have become like 20x more powerful in the last 10 years lol. Found my Dad’s old Galaxy S3 while cleaning the house, and it was still in working condition. Just soo freaking slow cause all the websites and were made for better hardware.
Yeah, except for the fact that modern Samsung s20 is not really that much more powerful than your s3. Sure it has more RAM, significantly more, but the processor is barely twice as good.
10 years old device has plenty power to run whatever website can offer, apart from maybe some battery degradation. Hell, I have 20 years old laptop that can do that. The reason it doesn’t is not technical, it’s almost exclusively economical, by which I mean “lazy cheap bastards don’t give a flying fuck about the mountains of e-waste we produce”
This is just an ignorant take on things. The S20 has like 4x the core count, and each one of those is at least 2x as energy efficient, and 4x more powerful.
No way the S20 is only slightly more powerful than an S3. If you’re not using any CPU intensive apps, such as games, then yeah, you aren’t going to see a massive difference. My S7 still runs well enough for browsing, music, and videos, but my S10 will run circles around it if I actually leverage its capabilities.
This really has nothing to do with being lazy, a lot of modern software just straight up isn’t supported anymore on such old systems. Making it compatible and testing it on those old platforms makes no business sense at all. Far too expensive with little to no benefit overall.
If anyone is to blame here it’s the phone manufacturers that don’t provide updates to those devices.
Bingo. For a lot of devices, especially anything made after 2015-ish, there’s no real reason why mid to high-end devices couldn’t be running the most recent OS version outside of “it’s a lot of work to certify updates for so many devices”. Thankfully Android has a custom ROM scene which keeps devices going for a few years longer.
One of the reasons is security, older Android APIs let your apps do whatever they want. You probably could try to find an apk that would work on older devices, but google has minimal API requirements that involve permissions and data access, and if your app doesn’t support them it wont be allowed on the Play Store. So even if devs supported other devices, you wouldn’t find the app on the store.
What makes it even more ridiculous is that it was originally a perfectly functional 3rd party app that they bought out. AlienBlue worked on ipads. A decade ago.
Tell me about it. Dalvik was replaced by the ART in Android 4.4 Kitkat IIRC, which is what my Nexus 7 shipped with back in 2013. Feels like 3 years ago rather than 10.
There's nothing here to leave from in the first place, this place is pretty much empty at the moment. At least when a big player joins the fediverse it will bring users here and we will finally get decent content. The good thing about the fediverse is that the bad actors can just be defederated if things get too bad, unlike reddit for example.
Same. If kbin joins in, I'm gone. I haven't been here long enough to give a fuck, but I do love it. I want kbin and Lemmy to make the right decision, but won't think twice about leaving the second I see things taking an enshittified turn. Fuck off, Meta - nobody wants you here.
The beauty of this all is that you can just head to a different Kbin or Lemmy instance. There absolutely will be instances that refuse to federate with Meta.
Thinking about it I’m in an European country where Whatsapp is the default messenger app, if it had interoperability I could be on another FOSS app and be tracked by Meta just when I talk to people who are on Whatsapp and be free when talking to people not on Whatsapp, this could be great to make people switch “clients”, which is damn hard now because “everyone is on Whatsapp”. Interoperability is the shit and we should embrace it!
Not if I’m talking to someone on Protonmail, Tutanota, etc.
Now would you prefer to have the possibility to talk privately at least to someone, even if just a handful of people, or be forced to never talk privately because you must use gmail to talk to anyone else?
Yes, but like I said, most people won’t be on those services so they will be able to collect most of your data anyways.
Here at least on Lemmy is even worse, because they can get everyone’s data even if you never access theirs instance or they could simply create a shadow one to get the data without anyone noticing
It’s not clear, are you saying that since they would get most of my data (which is an already flawed argument since for example now I have my partner, best friends and family on Signal which are 95% of my conversations, as opposed to 5% of people whom I talk to on Whatsapp) I should give them all of it?
The second point doesn’t even require to have Threads, they could already do that, now what?
In addition, Facebook already had support for XMPP at some point in time but killed it.
Why? Because they couldn't dry users off other platforms after Google closed their own support for XMPP.
Even if Meta "play nice", we already know their aim. Siphon users off mastodon and then remove activityPub support when most servers are on life support from loss of users.
So after getting a an AI analysis of all your comments, them selling your data. You only worry about upvotes?
That's a small difference. This example takes a small difference and blows it up to the extreme.
Well yeah. First of all that's another data point that marketing and AI companies can utilise.
Secondly on Reddit only admins could see how you voted and it was communicated that that is the case. In a federated network anyone who is or can pose as an instance can get that data. The Problem is that people assume Lemmy and kBin are more or less just like Reddit and are not considering everyone can get their voting record they assumed was not public. Better not have liked that kinky adult content or that politically controversial post.
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