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Ryan , to technology in Unity deleted these terms, don't let them get out

Not a game dev but I’ve had interest in using Unity for machine learning. I’m now trying out Godot since it does have quite a few ML libraries and it seems to be maintained better than Unity’s ml-agents.

Unity-ml-agents is quite a hassle to deal with but a few months ago I wasn’t able to find any altrrnatives. At least one good thing that came out of this is that I learned that there is an alternative to using Unity now.

morgan_423 , to technology in Unity deleted these terms, don't let them get out
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Any idea of why Unity did this?

I mean, they’ll generate some short term cash, sure, but they just lost their entire customer base. No developer of any size can take on the liability and risk of working with Unity again, even if Unity realizes how badly they screwed this up and reverts this.

Zanshi ,

Most likely to sell ads. Apparently the whole “pay us for every install” thing will be waived if the developer will be using their ad platform.

CitizenKong ,

The current Unity-CEO is the Ex-CEO of Electronic Arts, under him EA was named “Worst Company in America” two consecutive times in 2012 and 2013 by Consumerist Magazine and he’s on record saying that game devs that don’t focus on microtransactions are "the biggest fucking idiots".

Molecular0079 , to technology in Humble Bundle expressing their feelings about Unity

Lol, I dunno if it’s them expressing their feelings so much as them taking advantage of a business opportunity.

gregorum ,

Let’s meet in the middle and call it “jumping off a bandwagon” while introducing a wider audience to an alternative.

pjhenry1216 ,

Honestly, I could see it being both. HB isn't entirely cold-hearted corporatism.

chaogomu ,

They're charity as a corporate marketing tool.

Which makes them a lot of money (including a lot from me).

pjhenry1216 ,

They could easily make more money with the same image by limiting how much revenue goes to the charities. You can choose to not give them anything.

I'm not saying they aren't in it for the money. Most people need to make money to survive. But I think it's disingenuous to say they don't care at all. I think they do good and I feel many others agree.

A corporate marketing tool that costs such a large portion of your revenue is an inefficient tool. There must be some other value in it for them.

raptir ,

I have no idea what their motivation was, but the charity angle is a great way to differentiate themselves from Steam. I would guess they would not be so successful without it.

chameleon ,
@chameleon@kbin.social avatar

You haven't been able to give them nothing for over 2 years now. For this particular bundle, the minimum split for Humble is 30% and the default split is an insane 45% to Humble, 50% to the company and 5% to charity.

Humble is unfortunately still coursing by on their old reputation of being charity-friendly, but they changed to be one of the worst players around years ago. That goodwill from back then has really been depleted.

fraydabson ,

Yeah I almost always do minimum for humble and majority charity with a little left over for the provider.

lightnsfw ,

I’m fine with them even without the charity honestly. They sell DRM free books for cheap which is the only way I’m actually going to pay for digital books. We need more of that.

520 ,

They're IGN.

not_neno ,

“You can’t spell ignorant without IGN!”

FrankFrankson ,

Uh in 2017 Humble Bundle Inc. got bought out by IGN Entertainment which is owned by Ziff Davis …so yeah it’s part of a big shitty corporation.

BURN ,

Humble has coincidentally been a lot more shit since then too. I used to buy game bundles all the time, now it’s $20 to get maybe 2-3 games worth playing instead of $15 for 5-6 indie titles that were genuinely good.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

I stopped buying their game bundles when they started using Steam keys for everything instead of letting you download DRM-free.

I still sometimes buy their book and “software” bundles, though, but I always check to see how they’re going to be redeemed.

jayandp ,

Their Manga deals have been pretty amazing, when they have them every once in a blue moon.

Caligvla ,
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I can’t be the only one that thinks IGN, a game reviewing website, owning a publisher and storefront seems utterly immoral, right?

FinalRemix ,

Wasn’t IGN the shithole that had the Kane & Lynch ads plastered everywhere, plus a totally 100% unbiased review?

can , (edited )

Wasn’t it IGN that hasn’t been relevant since at least 2005?

Norgur ,

Wouldn't be bad at all, since Dollar is the only language John Riticiello (the guy doesn't deserve me looking up how he's spelled... so that's what I go for...) speaks. Not fluently, but still.

anteaters ,

When a gold rush gets going don’t go digging for gold but sell shovels.

fluckx , to technology in Humble Bundle expressing their feelings about Unity

I saw this and thought the exact same thing.

drspod , to technology in Humble Bundle expressing their feelings about Unity
Not_Alec_Baldwin ,

I see these bundles but I always assume they are trash.

Are they trash? I haven’t been interested until now, but I’ve been meaning to learn a bit of game dev as a hobby and unity isn’t really an option anymore.

anteaters ,

I did buy one of those Zenva bundles some time ago for Godot - seems to have very similar content to this one. It’s alright. Target audience are beginners but I suspect that we’ll get a lot more beginner tutorials on YT anyways.

Not_Alec_Baldwin ,

That’s always the conflict here, the free content on YouTube is just frequently so good. I guess I’ll just take a look for godot stuff right now and then decide.

BigVault ,
@BigVault@kbin.social avatar

I much prefer written guides for anything that interests me over YouTube videos that are unnecessarily long. Plus the false attempts to get engagement (sometimes by making statements that are maliciously stupid) to appease the algorithm like:

What are your preferred ways to consume content? I prefer carrier pigeon, it’s easily the best. Let me know in the comments below if you have a preferred way, and don’t forget to like and subscribe.

Really annoying, like our sponsor….

Cyreld ,

I had assumed these guides were in video form. If they’re written guides I might actually be more interested since I prefer that too

newIdentity ,

Depends if you’re interested in them or not. I bought the NisiOisiN (Monogatari series) bundle a few years ago and got my value out of it. Too bad the Metadata wasn’t in the same format on all of them and I had to edit it afterwards.

CosmoNova , to technology in Humble Bundle expressing their feelings about Unity

Apparently not enough feelings to take their “learn unity” bundle down that’s still going for 10 days. The little money it raised so far is laughable compared to the Godot bundle.

Anonymousllama , to technology in Humble Bundle expressing their feelings about Unity

How are these tutorials overall though. Humble has pushed out some real stinkers before from no-name tutorial mills so I’m always a bit way.

I know from their blender sales that some of the places they partner with are legitimately shit (low quality recordings, poor sound, poor pacing, not showing screen keys, poor instructor guidance etc)

naticus ,

No idea, but if you want to give it a try, let me know and I’ll give you the keys.

learningduck ,

On Godot subreddit, some one complained that the pixel art course, which is worth $50(Zenva’s default price) and included in this bundle has a poor quality and it’s obvious that the instructor isn’t an expert in the field.

phx ,

Yeah was discussing this with a friend and basically this is exactly why I don’t buy these bundles. They’re often not really at the level of proper martial created by an educational institution, but more collections of stuff that you might otherwise find on YouTube etc

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

Zenva’s instructors are extremely hit and miss.

Many feel like amateurs who made 1 test project and are now teaching it.

The phaser tutorial felt like the instructor was a C# developer trying to teach JavaScript.

The only reason I support them because there’s literally no other paid courses on a bunch of game development subjects that are in one easy to read place.

theneverfox ,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

I actually started writing a Godot course at my friends urging after I taught it to him over meets, but hated the sound of my voice and only recorded the first lesson. Is this something needed that I could make actual money on?

GhostlyPixel , to technology in Humble Bundle expressing their feelings about Unity
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I got an email advertising a learn unity bundle from them this morning, I don’t think they have a stance lol

Cheesus ,

Their stance is more money please

Rai ,

same tho

ech ,

Reminiscent of the Elvis manager that sold “I Hate Elvis” buttons along with his “I Love Elvis” buttons.

luciferofastora ,

I mean, if Elvis got a cut of that in some way (or we can bend the logic of which cash went where enough for this joke to work), odds are he spent at least some of it on drinks, figuratively drinking the tears of his haters.

SaltySalamander , to technology in Humble Bundle expressing their feelings about Unity
@SaltySalamander@kbin.social avatar

Know what would have made this post actually useful? A link to the fucking sale.

can ,
Potatos_are_not_friends ,

Reminder to max out the donation to either the publisher or the charity, and leave as little for Humble Bundle as possible.

MisterHavoc ,

Why. Not fighting you. Genuinely wanna know lol

Waldemar_Firehammer ,

The general sentiment is that the publisher did all the work, and the charity needs the money the most. Humble Bundle is a fantastic platform, but they are a middle man than takes a slice for bundling the products and presenting them to you. That has value, but the other two options deserve a majority of the pie.

can , (edited )

They used to let you donate nothing to Humble but now a portion is mandatory.

MisterHavoc ,

Ok I see what you mean from reading other comments. Thanks for the tip

m750 ,

This is like common practice here… talk about something. But don’t actually link or post it

ICastFist , to technology in Humble Bundle expressing their feelings about Unity
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I think it was mostly Zenva rushing to get some sweet cash while the drama and popcorn around Unity are still hot. HumbleBundle being anything but humble of course would set it up ASAP, I bet the charity was decided from a random wheel they keep around.

I hazard this guess because most other Zenva bundles offer Unity and/or Unreal courses. Also, a large portion of those Godot videos are “HumbleBundle Exclusives”, so stuff that they likely haven’t finished yet

Kyoyeou , to technology in Humble Bundle expressing their feelings about Unity

Reminds me even more of the DnD problem. The Pathfinder 2 bundle was insane, happy I got it

Da_Boom , to technology in Humble Bundle expressing their feelings about Unity
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Except they also have 2 bundles for unity and 1 for unreal. This is just cherry picked.

seitanic , to technology in Humble Bundle expressing their feelings about Unity
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

So, I guess you could say a lot of people are waiting for this?

AdmiralShat , to technology in Humble Bundle expressing their feelings about Unity

Be warned, Zenva runs on cloudflare and if you’re on mobile, you’ll be rate limited. I’m currently locked out of my brand new zenva purchases because of this stupid shit.

robsuto , to worldnews in Fitness enthusiasts are dying suddenly - 16 sudden deaths examined

16? You only mention 1.

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