Struwwelpeter is absolutely not a fairy tale though. Fairy tales can be gruesome in their own way, but nothing to do with this story - it’s by a single author.
Uh, actually RAM amount is the difference between some games being playable or not at all, and there are plenty of game issues related to insufficient/low memory
It’s not that the RAM hungry ones don’t run, it’s that they fill up the RAM and create stuttering - sometimes even with a big page file. Emulators can do this, for example.
And more RAM is particularly good because the CPU and GPU pull from the same pool of RAM in the device.
Not the OP, but it's decently well documented that there are games out there that are having a tough time with the memory constraints of the Steam Deck's 16 GB: https://youtu.be/z94TcihZxME?t=145
Now I'll grant that maybe it's a memory leak in TLoU that would cause you to still run into issues regardless of maximum memory but 16 GB is the recommended minimum and is starting to be the minimum recommended for other newer games and that's without having a chunk set aside for VRAM, so I'd bet that you'd see decent performance gains just by increasing the available RAM without it running at higher clocks.
The list of games that want combined RAM/VRAM in excess of 16GB is steadily increasing*, if there were an easy means of getting my Steam Deck to 32 GB, I'd jump on it. I haven't had less than 32 GB in my desktop daily driver since 2017 and honestly the 64 GB I have now starts to feel anemic once you've got a VM or two running with Chrome and a game all having to contend for the same resources. Honestly, I've never felt like I had too much memory, but I have definitely felt it performance wise when I don't have enough, where things start to stutter and the frame pacing goes all to hell while things are shuffled in and out of memory. Speed isn't nothing, but there is definitely an increasing argument to be made for quantity as well.
I’m supposed to prove a negative? Do you want me to show a video of games crashing
Games that scale up with play (more players, growing environments, etc) tend to use more RAM over time, and especially such games with mods benefit from more RAM.
Anno, various building/construction games like Cities, Arm, DCS, Warzone whatever. Plenty of games will run with 8-16GB but run better with more. Yes, you can play the game with the “required” specs but that doesn’t mean they run great, and CPU/GPU isn’t always the bottleneck in larger environments.
I played through GoW on Deck but it definitely had a memory leak that would cause crashing after a bit. More RAM would have extended the play time despite that issue, and I’ve a couple other titles where the odd crash is likely for similar reasons.
I literally did give an example, so now you’re just being dickish.
GoW (God of War) had - possibly still has, I haven’t checked recently - a memory leak condition. Over time, it will start to stutter out and eventually freeze. TLOU apparently also has/had this issue, though I haven’t picked that one up yet myself.
More RAM extends the time one can play but in some cases may also get one past a “hump” to the point where it can do collection and reclaim RAM.
In the case of GoW it seems to be a VRAM issue, but since the Deck uses an APU both system and video memory are allocated from the same pool. That also means that one needs to consider VRAM usage overall in terms of performance, as a game that works well with 16GB on a desktop system with a dedicated GPU (that has dedicated memory) won’t actually have 16GB available on the Deck as some of that is allocated to the VRAM pool.
And no, your ask originally was that I prove a game “not running” (which is proving a negative, as the positive version would be “show that game X runs”) and then tying it back to RAM. To quote:
do us a favor and show me a game not running on the Steam Deck due to lack of RAM
You and that other technological genius are wrong. The device ships with 8GB of RAM and tools like CryoUtilities allow for more of that to allocated to the GPU framebuffer. This allows for measurably better performance. Cryo does this by increasing allocated GPU VRAM and enabling more swapping of RAM to disk, thereby giving the deck more usable VRAM.
You are both rather uninformed. RAM can enable games to use more c library headers and avoid stack smashing by way of the UPC bussing through the central wafer. The reason why valve doesn’t use this bus path like they CAN is because the propagation delay is not even close to being a bottleneck on the lesser capacity chip but when you have 32gb chip, for example, the sequential NAND configuration doesn’t do any better at allocating memory because the pointers aren’t using malloc() in the transport layer anymore.
I’m not wrong I just skipped a step in describing the value of having more RAM you egotistical cumstain… Cryo33 doesn’t just recommended increasing the GPU allocation in the recovery tools he practically states it’s a must.
And it’s really telling how practically every other x86 handheld starts at 16GB but please do shit on the basic premise that we should have more RAM because it’s so fundamentally flawed.
ah hell don’t tell me this. this is my problem. i bought my current GPU without realising it doesn’t have enough VRAM to drive ray tracing at 4K but it’s fine for everything else at 4K.
If you don't know what you're doing and have the right tools, you will break your shit.
And no, I won't tell you what they are, because if you can't figure it out it's a really bad idea (and also because I have no fucking clue, but no one need to know that part).
That developer guy must have gotten very rich if we all 20 Lemmy Sync users bought his app.
I wonder what’s the percentage of Sync users vs the rest, seeing how passionate some are about Lemmy, it probably means they are inundating Lemmy developers with donations and just want us to do the same.
The 18650 should have become the ubiquitous replacement in most applications, but nooo, the manufacturers had to go all proprietary and enforce even more planned obsolescence
There’s more than one lilthium battery chemistry. LiFePO4 is pretty safe even when mistreated. Lithium-cobalt chemistries are the ones that tend to catch on fire, make their pouches inflate like balloons, and so on. I’ve seen 18650s labelled specifically as LiFePO4, so safe ones do exist.
Well, the rechargeable batteries that are least likely to blow up in your face are the ones with the old-style NiMH (nickel metal hydride) chemistry that they use in rechargeable AAs and such. They have lower energy density than the lithium chemistries, so there’s less there to explode. They’re pretty inert unless you stuff them into a charger that doesn’t work properly—a busted charger can set just about any battery on fire. (Why is the NiMH chemistry still used for AAs? Because the normal voltage of a single NiMH cell falls nicely in the middle of the voltage discharge curve of a single alkaline cell. Lithium chemistries don’t have that property.)
Sometimes I’ll randomly remember a joke or funny situation from years ago and suddenly grin or laugh about it again. Then people ask me what’s so funny and I can’t really explain.
Teacher: "And so, the United States dropped the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, wiping the cities off the map, and causing untold amounts of death and suffering to those who were caught in their wake."
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