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green_pyroxene , to memes in Jiv me a break

whichever way pisses off the most people

watch me pronounce it /χäɪf/ (“hyfe”)

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

Isn’t that one of Elon Muskrat’s kids?

kluevo ,

When I want to be annoying (and when the people I’m talking to are aware of furries), I pronounce it ‘yiff’

NewEnglandRedshirt , to memes in Primes
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Oh yeah? What about 0? And 1?

Chais ,
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They’re not prime. By definition primes have two prime factors. 1 and the number itself. 1 is divisible only by 1. 0 has no prime factors.

CAPSLOCKFTW ,

Commonly primes are defined as natural numbers greater than 1 that have only trivial divisors. Your definition kinda works, but 1 can be infinitely many prime factors since every number has 1^n with n ∈ ℕ as a prime factor. And your definition is kinda misleading when generalising primes.

Chais , (edited )
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Isn’t 1^n just 1? As in not a new number. I’d argue that 11==11*1. They’re not some subtly different ones. I agree that the concept of primes only becomes useful for natural numbers >1.
How is my definition misleading?

CAPSLOCKFTW , (edited )

It is no new number, though you can add infinitely many ones to the prime factorisation if you want to. In general we don’t append 1 to the prime factorisation because it is trivial.

In commutative Algebra, a unitary commutative ring can have multiple units (in the multiplicative group of the reals only 1 is a unit, x*1=x, in this ring you have several “ones”). There are elemrnts in these rings which we call prime, because their prime factorisation only contains trivial prime factors, but of course all units of said ring are prime factors. Hence it is a bit quirky to define ordinary primes they way you did, it is not about the amount of prime factors, it is about their properties.

Edit: also important to know: (ℝ,×), the multiplicative goup of the reals, is a commutative, unitary ring, which happens to have only one unit, so our ordinary primes are a special case of the general prime elements.

Chais ,
@Chais@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oof, I remember why I didn’t study math 😅
But thanks for the explanation

CAPSLOCKFTW ,

Yeah, higher math is a total brainfuck :D You’re welcome.

Llewellyn ,
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I was never able to wrap my head around quaternions.

T0Keh ,

There is multiple things wrong here.

  1. 1 is not a prime number because it is a unit and hence by definition excluded from being a prime.
  2. You probably don’t mean units but identity elements:
  • A unit is an element that has a multiplicative inverse
  • An identity element is an element 1 such that 1x =x1 = x for all x in your ring

There are more units in R than just 1, take for example -1(unless your ring has characteristic 2 in which case thi argument not always works; however for the case of real numbers this is not relevant). But there is always just one identity element, so there is at most one “1” in any ring. Indeed suppose you have two identities e,f. Then e = ef = f because e,f both are identities.

  1. The property “their prime factorisaton only contains trivial prime factors” is a circular definition as this requires knowledge about “being prime”. A prime (in Z) is normally defined as an irreducible element, i.e. p is a prime number if p=ab implies that either a or b is a unit (which is exactly the property of only having the factors 1 and p itself (up to a unit)).
  2. (R,×) is not a ring (at least not in a way I am aware of) and not even a group (unless you exclude 0).
  3. What are those “general prime elements”? Do you mean prime elements in a ring (or irreducible elements?)? Or something completely different?
CAPSLOCKFTW ,

You’re mostly right, i misremembered some stuff. My phone keyboard or my client were not capable of adding a small + to the R. With general prime elements I meant prime elements in a ring. But regarding 3.: Not all reducible elements are prime nor vice versa.

T0Keh ,

That’s why I wrote prime number instead of prime element to not add more confusion. I know that in general prime and irreducible are not equivalent.

bstix ,

0 has all the factors. Itself and any other number.

Blackmist ,

Put them in a sieve of Eratosthenes and see what happens.

Spoiler, they aren’t.

Gnubyte , to lemmyshitpost in Treat yo self

Honestly I was hoping for a more dyslexic moment where the post says “I wanted more toilet seats for fun”. As if she were a totally unhinged toilet seat collector.

fne8w2ah , to lemmyshitpost in Treat yo self

That’s why uBlock Origin is the GOAT.

Selmafudd , to cat in Flipping the script

Mine does the same thing every morning, sits at her bowl, I open the cupboard door and pull out bag of food, start to tip it and as soon as the first tiny biscuit hits the bowl she fucking dives into it, her head pushing the bag away stopping me for adding more food so she snaps up the 10 or 12 that I managed to get in the bowl, then the other 10 or 12 that fell around the floor and then looks up at me and meows and I just stare back at her wondering if today is the day I stop owning a cat

SolarNialamide ,

Is she food obsessed the whole day or just in the morning? One of my cats was like that, the whole day, and it turned out she actually had worms (my fault, I didn’t think it was necessary to deworm an indoor cat), and now that it’s treated she is very chill with food.

Selmafudd ,

No just the mornings

machiabelly , to memes in Shoot me a third time..... can't get shot again
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so is lemmy.ml literally just reddit-logo ?

Rachelhazideas , to memes in Shoot me a third time..... can't get shot again

Girl boring guy quirky.

Player2 , to memes in Jiv me a break

Yiff

Cyberwitch_7493 ,
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Um, I don’t know how to tell you, but that means a wiiiildly different thing. 🤣

irdc , to cat in Flipping the script

Why would cats keep humans? It’s not as if they like us or anything….oh wait.

Colour_me_triggered , to memes in Jiv me a break

It’s yiff, like furry sex. But in all seriousness, if you don’t pronounce it with a hard g, then you can f##k off on the short bus.

Cyberwitch_7493 , (edited )
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You had me until the short bus joke. Are you aware that’s vaguely super ableist?

Colour_me_triggered ,

As someone with pretty profound learning disabilities, I’d like to point out that… It’s actually very ableist. Maybe putting us in bus ghettos so you can sanitise your school system and isolate your darling children from the freaks is slightly worse though.

kluevo ,

Assuming short busses are the same as minibusses, it’s kinda funny because my old school district uses them for transporting the ‘intellectually gifted’ students to a special advanced class. so ‘taking the minibus’ is something of a compliment where I’m from.

Colour_me_triggered ,

Intellectually jifted. Yeah my significant other was one of the short bus to the magnet school kids. But I’m European, and we don’t segregate based on neurotype (at least not to the same extent).

Colour_me_triggered ,

Question: person with autism, autistic person, or autist? Justify your answer.

Cyberwitch_7493 ,
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I have AuDHD and don’t really care. I know some do, but I’m no longer so scrupulous.

Colour_me_triggered ,

I prefer autist. People shouldn’t need to be reminded that I’m human.

PizzaDeposit , to memes in So happy this is something we left behind (mostly)

Same

salient_one , to memes in LET'S GOOOOOOO
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Placebo effect is one of the greatest mysteries of all time. I believe figuring it out will greatly affect our lives for the better.

Tankiedesantski ,

“Wait, we had the ability to alter reality with our minds alone? Since when?!”

“Since always”

“GOD DAMMIT!”

Naomikho , to memes in LET'S GOOOOOOO
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I’m quite enjoying the sugarless candies I have in my drawer at the office.

nik282000 , to memes in Debian based distro
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Debian, based distro.

deftdrummer , to memes in So happy this is something we left behind (mostly)

"my biggest regret is that I only have one upvote to give. " 🤢

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