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MrGerrit , to memes in Every. Single. Week.

So many people complain about epic and it’s launcher. Yeah, it’s not great but it works just fine and with all the free games you can claim, it’s just crazy not to have a account for it.

Every week 1 to 2 games to claim and in December for like 2 weeks straight you get extra games to claim.

Who cares it’s a repeat or a less good game, it’s free. Try it out and maybe you’ll find your next favorite game!

JasSmith ,

I fully agree. There was some controversy about exclusives, and I get it, but the drama was completely disproportional to the issue. It turns out that console fanboys have evolved into launcher fanboys. I'm grateful for free games and an amazing games engine.

Ganbat ,

You should look up what happened with Ooblets.

JasSmith , (edited )
Ganbat ,

Ah, I see, you’re a moron.

Hyperi0n ,

Looks like you’re a moron, if you stand by the harrassment, death threats, racism and sexism.

Ganbat , (edited )

I never said I stood by that shit, just that I stood against what the dev did. Conversely, it’ll be much harder for you to claim you’re not standing by the dev’s actions, since everything he did came directly from him.

How about the way he told people who had already paid him, who funded the development of the entire fucking game for years that he “owes them nothing,” despite the fact that he would be literally nowhere without them?

What about how he said that his own supporters and customers no longer being able to access the game that they funded and paid for is “not his problem?”

How about my favorite quote from the dev: “gamers deserve the gas chamber.”

So, good to know you support a cruel, scamming, antisemitic scumbag.🖕

Edit: The quote was fabricated, as it turns out. The rest was not.

pleasantly_moist ,

Nobody lost access to the game. They just had to click a different icon to launch it. That’s it. That was the whole “controversy”.

Calling someone a moron and Nazi for not joining a temper tantrum over something so utterly inconsequential is psychopath behavior.

Ganbat , (edited )

Did you seriously make an alt just to make this ignorant, lie-filled reply? You’re a god damned loser on top of being a moron. How about before being this big of a sweaty dipshit in the future, you try ACTUALLY READING WHAT YOURE REPLYING TO.

Edit: To address your insane ignorance, yes, people who gave them money did fucking lose access to it. They had supporters in countries where EGS didn’t do service at the time who lost access entirely. One such user is who I saw receive the “Not our problem,” reply.

Hyperi0n ,

You’re grasping at straws, claiming different people to be sock puppets, posing strawman arguments and spouting gamergate level conspiracy bullshit.

You are the problem.

nanoUFO ,
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I remember reading that post and yeah it read like someone talking down to a child. Do they deserve the hate? No but they did their best to attract it.

Ganbat ,

And if you’re not interested in having their launcher on your system, there’s an open source alternative called Heroic.

MrGerrit ,

You can use it on windows? I’m using it on my steam deck to have access to prime, gog and epic.

It looks like a good alternative.

Ganbat ,

Yeah, works perfectly fine on Windows.

Comment105 ,

Is it a launcher-launcher like Playnite and GOG? Is it better?

Ganbat ,

It’s a third-party launcher for Epic, GoG and Amazon. It’s way less resource heavy than GoG or Epic and better in terms of privacy.

calzone_gigante ,

You can use heroic, it is pretty good and supports epic, gog and amazon games, also setups proton/wine for you if you are not on win

Hyperi0n ,

Does it support Steam? Only launcher I want gone.

Twink ,
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Their store is abhorrent to navigate last I tried it. And no Linux default client. A no from me. They don’t want me so they won’t have me.

MrGerrit ,

I totally agree. After all this time the store is still lacking very heavily.

I’m going to give the heroic client a try, works great on my steam deck.

I would just make a account and claim the free games through the website, their always on the frontpage to claim.

But to each their own ofcourse.

chic_luke , to linux in Windows 11 vs Linux supported HW

They have a point. I’m in the market for a new laptop and I have, so far, returned two of them.

First, I tried a Huawei Matebook 16. I was foolish, but I thought it was “easy”. No NVidia, no dGPU at all - just part that looked very standard. It was based on the info I had gathered from a few years of Linux usage: “Basically avoid NVidia and you’re good”. It was anything but. Broken suspend, WiFi was horrible, random deadlocks, extreme slowness at times (as if the RYZEN 7 wasn’t Ryzen 7-ing) to become less smooth than my 5 year old Intel laptop, and broken audio codec (Senary Audio) that didn’t work at all on the live, and worked erratically on the installed system using generic hd-audio drivers.

I had a ~€1500 budget, but I raised it to buy a €1700 ThinkPad P16s AMD. No dGPU to speak of, sold with pre loaded Linux, boasting Canonical and Red Hat hardware certifications.

I had:

  • Broken standby on Linux
  • GPU bugs and screen flickering on Linux
  • Various hangs and crashed
  • Malfunctioning wifi and non working 6e mode. I dug, and apparently the soldered Wi-Fi adapter does not have any kind of Linux support at all, but the kernel uses a quirk to load the firmware of an older Qualcomm card that’s kinda similar on it and get it to work in Wi-Fi 6 compatibility mode.

Boggles my mind that the 2 biggest enterprise Linux vendors took this laptop, ran a “thorough hardware certification process” on it and let it pass. Is this a pass? How long have they tried it? Have they even tried suspending?

Of course, that was a return. But when I think about new laptops and Windows 11, basically anything works. You don’t have to pay attention to anything: suspend will work, WiFi will work, audio and speakers as well, if you need fractional scaling you aren’t in for a world of pain, and if you want an NVidia dGPU, it does work.

Furthermore, the Windows 11 compatible CPU list is completely unofficial arbitrary, since you can still sideload Windows 11 on “unsupported” hardware and it will run with a far higher success rate than Linux on a random laptop you buy in store now. Like, it has been confirmed to run well on ancient Intel CPUs with screens below the minimum resolution. It’s basically a skin over 10 and there are no significant kernel modifications.

To be clear: I don’t like Windows, but I hate this post as a consumer of bleeding edge hardware because it hides the problem under the rug - most new hardware is Windows-centric, and Linux supported options are few and far between. Nowdays not even the manufacturer declaring Linux support is enough. This friend of mine got a Dell XPS 13 Plus Developer Edition, and if he uses ANY ISO except the default Dell-customized Ubuntu 20.04 audio doesn’t work at all! And my other friend with a Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition has various GPU artifacts on the screen on anything except the relative Dell-customized Ubuntu 20.04 image. It’s such a minefield.

I have effectively added €500 to my budget, to now reach an outrageous €2000 for a premium Linux laptop with no significant trade-offs (mostly, I want a good screen and good performance). I am considering taking a shot in the dark and pre ordering the Framework 16, effectively swaying from traditional laptop makers entirely and hoping a fully customized laptop by a company that has been long committed to Linux support will be different.

kyub , (edited )

thorough hardware certification process

Probably marketing speech for “an intern tested it once with the default setup and he reported there were no errors”

Broken standby on Linux

That is sometimes broken because of broken UEFI/ACPI implementations which the Windows drivers were made to respect and work around, but the Linux drivers who are often developed not by the hardware manufacture himself but rather 3rd parties who implement them according to the available docs/specifications, will then result in a semi-broken functionality because implementing something according to the specification doesn’t mean much unfortunately if there are quirks or bugs you have to circumvent as well. This improves over time though with more adoption of Linux. When you compare the hardware support of Linux today vs. 20 years ago, it’s become much, much better already due to more developers and users working on it / reporting issues, and also more and more hardware vendors becoming actually involved in the Linux driver development.

GPU bugs and screen flickering on Linux

Various hangs and crashed

Definitely not normal. But it’s likely that it’s just a small configuration or driver issue. Since you didn’t provide any details, I just leave it as “easy to configure properly”. I get that it would be cooler if it worked OOTB, but sometimes that isn’t the case. It goes both ways, as well. It’s hard to generalize based on few occurrences, but I also had problems long ago with a mainboard with its Realtek audio drivers on Windows which didn’t work. Don’t remember the details because it was long ago but I had to hunt for a very specific driver version from Realtek (wasn’t easy to find), and couldn’t use the one the mainboard vendor provided as the Realtek driver, nor the one provided by Windows by default. Anyway, of course Windows is generally better supported on most notebooks, I won’t deny that, but that’s simply due to market share, not because it’s somehow made better. That’s important to realize. If Linux had 80% market share, it would be the other way round, every manufacturer would absolutely ensure that their driver will work on all their distro targets and all their hardware models. In the Linux world, the drivers are sometimes made by 3rd party developers because otherwise there would be no driver at all, and so it’s better to have a mostly functional driver than none at all. And that’s also just because the vendors CAN ignore Linux based on marketshare. They shouldn’t, but they can, and it makes short-term financial sense to do so, so it happens. Of course, if they market some of their models as explicitly Linux-friendly, they should absolutely ensure that such things will work OOTB. But even if they don’t, it’s usually not hard to make it work.

new laptops and Windows 11, basically anything works

Only because the manufacturer HAS to ensure that it works, while he DOESN’T HAVE to ensure that Linux will play nice with that hardware as well. I recommend using either notebooks from Linux-specific manufacturers (I had good experiences with Tuxedo for example) or you continue to use the “Linux-centric” notebook models from Dell/HP/… and then simply troubleshoot any shortcomings these might have. I don’t know the model but it’s very likely that it’s a simple configuration issue. And I wouldn’t recommend using the manufacturer’s default OS. Especially not with Windows notebooks. Always reinstall a fresh, unmodified OS, and work from there. I’d even assume that if you leave out any vendor-specific software or kernel modules, your problems will probably vanish already.

I have effectively added €500 to my budget

That’s an unfortunate reality also in other areas. Smaller vendors can’t produce in mass quantities, and so they have to sell their stuff for more money, even though it seems counter-intuitive at first. But this is also the case with e.g. the Librem 5 mobile phone which is also very expensive (but a great option if you want a mainline Linux phone) [in this case, it’s very expensive becaue you not only pay for the hardware, but also for the software development time], or well anything which isn’t cheaply produced on a mass scale where you get volume discounts. So in a sense, if you want to change the status quo, you have to pay extra. So yes, buying a brand new Linux notebook isn’t cheap, unless you want to specifically use an older notebook where Linux also happens to run on. But on the other hand, buying a pure Linux notebook also should generally ensure that it will work well. Similar to how when you buy hardware from Apple, they will ensure that OS X runs well on it.

I don’t think that you can generalize anything from your or your friend’s experience, so it seems likely that your friend misconfigured something or installed something the wrong way, leading to such stability problems. General tip: stability issues are almost always driver-related. Same as on Windows. So first try to remove all non-essential drivers (kernel modules on Linux) and see whether that improves stability. And, of course, check the logs. In most cases, they will point out the issue. I’ve also installed Linux on several “Windows-only” (not marketed as Linux compatible) notebooks and it ran just fine without ANY stability or graphics issues. I have a Lenovo ThinkPad for work and it runs Arch Linux, it’s probably more stable than the Win11 it’s supposed to run with. At least among my colleagues who run Win11 on it, I’m the only one who didn’t yet have a driver or update issue within its lifespan. One of those colleagues even had to reinstall Win11 after a borked update. I also use Tuxedo notebooks (Linux-compatible by default) personally and they’re great as well. But of course I never use vendor-supplied software, so I’m not affected if such software behaves badly. I always configure my systems the way I want them, starting from a vanilla base.

Tschuuuls ,

Buy a framework. Only Linux issue is screen tearing on X11 with fractional scaling. Wayland is fine.

areyouevenreal ,

Have you tried updating the kernel? If it’s been rated to work with a certain Linux distribution and it doesn’t work on yours then chances are that the distribution they tested with is using a newer kernel.

That being said new hardware can be quite problematic on Linux. I personally haven’t had issues with Huawei Matebooks provided I installed the newer kernels, but Apple Silicon was a nightmare.

nathris ,

I’ve thrown Linux on every laptop I’ve ever owned, and a couple of family members laptops as well and the past 15 years and haven’t encountered 1/10th of the issues they you have.

Complaining about broken suspend is funny because Microsoft basically killed S3 sleep in favour of the battery sucking S0. If anything it works better in Linux because you won’t open up your laptop to find that Windows Update fucking ran in the background while it was sitting closed in your backpack and rebooted.

I think your issue might be more of an AMD issue. They have a long history of buggy mobile hardware even on Windows.

I mean hell I threw Fedora on to my Intel MacBook Pro and the only real annoyance I had was not being able to reliably disable the SPDIF light in the 3.5mm jack.

I’m currently using the non-linux version of the XPS 13 2-in-1 and my OS experience is actually the opposite of your friends. I can install any Linux ISO without issue, but the standard Win 11 ISO refuses to work because it can’t detect any storage drives.

As far as daily driving Linux on it, the only things that don’t work are the fingerprint reader and webcam. It’s a bit of a piss off given that non-touchscreen version uses similar spec hardware that does support it but it doesn’t really affect daily use.

31337 ,

I’ve never had suspend work correctly on Linux. It’s always been buggy in Windows as well. You can boot from SSDs about just as fast as waking from suspend, so I don’t even try to use it anymore.

utopify_org ,
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Why would you throw away so much money for new and shitty hardware, if Linux runs perfectly on old robust devices, which can be bought for a fraction of what you invested?

r00ty Admin , to memes in Very
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Big brother isn't watching you because you're not a party member, merely a lowly prole. Deal with it!

lowleveldata , to memes in Very

I’d like to know what preference is standard and not weird

CitizenKong , to lemmyshitpost in The what now?

First, you take the dinglepop, and you smooth it out with a bunch of schleem. The schleem is then repurposed for later batches.

Then you take the dinglebop and push it through the grumbo, where the fleeb is rubbed against it. It’s important that the fleeb is rubbed, because the fleeb has all of the fleeb juice.

Then a Shlami shows up and he rubs it, and spits on it.

Then you cut the fleeb. There’s several hizzards in the way.

The blaffs rub against the chumbles, and the plubus and grumbo are shaved away.

That leaves you with a regular old plumbus!

quicken , to cat in Naughty and nice

Pretty sure I’ve been to the same place and Popsicle had committed some other crime at the time 😹

worfamerryman , to memes in Every. Single. Week.

There have been a few instances where I was excited for the free games that came out.

One game they have given out a few times is called “Enter the Gungeon”

This is one of the best roguelite games I’ve ever played. I have hundreds of hours in this game.

Please play it for a while if you have not.

MrGerrit ,

Frickin’ amen to that! I long got it on my switch, first digital than physical. Claimed it for free on ps+ and epic.

Between all of them I have 1000+ hours in the game and it’s still fun to play.

worfamerryman ,

Im ready to give mods a try. Im on Linux, so I’m not sure how difficult it will be. But I’m pretty confident I can get it working. In fact, I might have tried in the past.

MrGerrit ,

Through a mod I practiced >!The rats boxing match part!<

worfamerryman ,

I’m not sure why I didn’t think about that. It’s hard enough to get to the mouse just to quickly try to learn the buttons and then die.

calzone_gigante ,

Subnautica, Yooka-Laylee, gta5, dishonored, they gave away a lot of good stuff.

worfamerryman ,

Not sure if I got subnautica. There was a crpg series they gave away. I forget the name, but i was about the buy it on steam and recognized the artwork. I checked on Epic and sure enough I had the triology.

Muddydog ,

I now check Gog Galaxy (linked to steam and epic) before any purshase. Still buy bundles I already have.

iByteABit ,

Shit I must have missed that, I’ve seen it maby times on the Steam store and contemplated buying it

worfamerryman ,

Such a wonderful game!

JasSmith , to memes in Every. Single. Week.

I’ve got so many amazing free games from Epic over the years. When I grew up I’d have to play the same shitty demos over and over again because I couldn’t afford full games. Now I have hundreds of high quality games for free. This is truly the golden age of gaming. Being a kid right now must be magical.

As an aside, I grew up playing games like Jazz Jackrabbit, Epic Pinball, and Unreal. It’s so cool to see how they have continued to evolve. Especially the Unreal engine, which is basically witchcraft.

Chewget ,

Jazz Jackrabbit takes me baaack!

centof , to memes in Every. Single. Week.

This is me most weeks. Thanks for the reminder to claim them this week. :D

smeg ,

Cheeky self-plug, but if you join !freegames you can see all the freebie notifications as they appear

TheLobotomist , (edited ) to memes in Very
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How does he know my preferences if he’s not watching me though?

stappern , to patientgamers in They might do a remake so it's time to buy Oblivion on PC in case it becomes unavailable

Ah yes, “buy”

vlad76 , (edited )
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I was going to say that I don’t think it’ll ever become “unavailable”.

dipshit , to lemmyshitpost in The what now?

Tag yourself! I am dillsack.

VikingHippie ,

Scungle reporting for duty 🫡

frippa ,
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(the nutte sac) 😀🖐️

unreachable , to memes in Very
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i feel watchedattacked

Dick_Justice , to memes in Every. Single. Week.
@Dick_Justice@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve played a bunch of Epic free games.

WarmSoda ,

Hell yeah. They have some good ones.

Eggyhead , to memes in Very
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They aren’t watching, but they are recording so they can watch later at their leisure and skip the commercials.

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