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I_Miss_Daniel , to linux in What are the main challenges in Linux adoption for New users, and how can it be addressed?
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How about not just dumping the user to a weird terminal prompt at startup because it thinks the file system needs a check?

They shouldn't have to google what to do next.

xkforce , to linux in What are the main challenges in Linux adoption for New users, and how can it be addressed?

Off the top of my head things that Ive run into over the years that would have caused 99% of computer users to throw Linux in the bin:

*Having to edit xorg.conf to set the graphics driver

*A typo in the sources list that prevented any packages from downloading (distro upgrade)

*A bug in systemd that resulted in the OS not booting (fresh install)

*The wrong graphics card driver being selected and not being installed correctly because Ubuntu kept back 5 packages necessary for it to function (fresh install)

*A bug in how Ubuntu handles the disk platter that causes hard drives to fail far more rapidly than they should (that bug has been there for years and probably ruined a few hard drives)

*Having to recompile the wifi driver after every upgrade (broadcomm chipset) before the driver was included in the kernel and having to reinstall the OS after the driver was included in the kernel because something went wrong during the upgrade. ie recompiling didnt fix anything and the native driver wasnt working either.

*failed drive encryption

*grub being installed incorrectly (no boot)

*dealing with UEFI to maintain a dual boot for programs that cannot be emulated or virtualized effectively (lag sensitive non-native games)

*Audio output defaults being incorrect (no sound, no mic)

But the one thing that above all else, will drive newbies away is how the general linux community tends to respond to things.

coldredlight , to linux in What are the main challenges in Linux adoption for New users, and how can it be addressed?

I recently gave up on daily driving Pop OS. About 6 months ago I got a new laptop with Windows 11, which for various reasons I am not a fan of. I decided it would be a good time to try an experiment and install Linux. The biggest issue right off the bat was lack of hardware support, the fingerprint reader and the speaker amp are not supported. I spent a bunch of time researching and seeing if I could make them work but apparently it has to do with the kernel and isn’t really something I can fix. This didn’t seem like a big deal at first because I can get sound out of the headphone jack or via bluetooth, and while it was convenient to login via a fingerprint reader, it wasn’t something I really felt like I needed. Since then I’ve become much more reliant on biometric authentication, it’s just so much more convenient to be able to auth bitwarden with my finger instead of having to type in a password. More recently, I started using Proton VPN and the client is pretty crap in Linux. Switching over to Windows 11, I can login with my finger, all of my passwords are a finger print away, Proton VPN works natively with wireguard and is generally much more reliable and easier to use. It’s just a much better user experience, there’s nothing weird and janky to deal with, I don’t need to mess about in the command line to do basic things. I really loved Pop, and I’m sure I’ll boot back into it, but I’m daily driving Windows 11 until I can sort out the hardware issues and get Proton VPN working better, and I think both of those issues are out of my hands so all I can do is wait.

dan1101 , to programmerhumor in Arcane overflow
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I could never be a wizard. Mess up code, get some error messages. Mess up a spell, get turned into a pile of goo, slaughtered by a demon, or transported to a hell dimension.

rare_polyhedron , to memes in I have a theory that the more lore a franchise has, the more of an autistic fanbase it has. I made a graphic about it.

Star Wars has too much broad appeal to be that high on the autism list

blaine ,

I don't know how anyone can say that Star Wars has more lore than Star Trek. They both have about the same number of movies and books, but Star Trek has hundreds more episodes of TV to expand the lore even further.

Bruce , to programmerhumor in Programming Languages

powershell is litterally out of the picture.

milkytoast , to memes in Cats are getting heavier these days
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chonky cats

lemmy_in , to linux in What are the main challenges in Linux adoption for New users, and how can it be addressed?

Too much choice: 100 distros x 100 DEs x wayland vs x11 x 20 login managers x wayland vs x11 x …

mauns , to programmerhumor in Facebook engineers are getting desperate

No no, this is Twitter because this poor guy doesn’t have any coworkers left to ask.

SkullHex2 , (edited )
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in the process of deleting every comment of my lemmy.world account, and permanently joining some instance that does not censor stuff

Parabola ,

Yes

mauns ,

Amazing. It showed up in my ‘Hot’ feed lol

dot20 ,

The hot algorithm is a bit bugged, it likes to throw in the occasional ancient post

emeralddawn45 ,

I imagine it’s because someone commented on it so it shows activity. Dunno how the first commenter found it though. Probably just scrolled all the way back lol.

dot20 ,

No you’re thinking of ‘active’, which surfaces posts with recent comments. Just scroll a bit on ‘hot’ and you’ll see it dredges up some old posts, even without recent comments

regular_human ,
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Bring out yer dead!

MadCybertist ,
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My instance says 1 year and it doesn’t show in hot for me but shows in active. kbin.social.

Ultra980 ,

My instance also says 1 year. Lemmy.world, with the connect app

mihnt ,
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  • mihnt ,
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    And 1 year on kbin from a web browser. I wonder why all the difference?

    redditReallySucks ,
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    2 years on my instance in thunder app

    donuts , to linux in What are the main challenges in Linux adoption for New users, and how can it be addressed?
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    To me, the big problem is still updates breaking things.

    Everybody needs to update their system from time to time, but if doing so leaves your system in an unusable (for the average person, not a linux terminal guru) state, users aren't going to stay.

    I think immutable/atomic OSes like Silverblue, VanillaOS and SteamOS are heading in the right direction to solve this issue. Particularly if they allow users to easily rollback a bad update. Otherwise maybe there is some way to detect and warn about potential compatibility issues before people update.

    LeFantome , to programmerhumor in Programming Languages

    PHP is the landmine they are about to step on.

    Redrum714 ,

    Glad C++ will be the one step on it cause it deserves it. I’d take PHP over that shit any day

    Blizzard , to linux in What are the main challenges in Linux adoption for New users, and how can it be addressed?

    I’m a new user. How do I disable being prompted for a password every time I want change/install anything? I just want password requirement at logon and not when logged on.

    BaconIsAVeg ,

    User Account Control on Windows was no different, other than being a few decades late to the party.

    russjr08 ,
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    Kind of, but to be fair UAC doesn’t prompt you for the account password unless you’re not an Administrator on the PC (in which case you have to enter the password of someone who is). If you’re on a single user PC, you’ll be an admin and it’ll only be a “Yes / No” prompt.

    Now macOS on the other hand does require the password, unless you have an Apple Watch (if I heard correctly) in which you can confirm it by pressing a button on it. Or, using the fingerprint reader on the Macs with a TouchID sensor.

    Voytrekk ,
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    You will want to modify the sudoers file. In a terminal sudo nano /etc/sudoers. You will want to go down to the line %wheel ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL and comment it out by adding # in front of it. A few lines down should be a similar line # %wheel ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL. You will want to uncomment this by deleting the # at the beginning of the line. With nano, you can save by hitting ctrl+O then hitting ENTER to confirm. Hit ctrl+X to exit nano.

    Link to sudoers man page

    Blizzard ,

    Thanks, I tried that before and I think it only worked until I re-logged (?). I’ll try that again, this time will use something else than vi editor to be sure.

    Voytrekk ,
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    vi is definitely different being a modal editor. If you are new to Linux, I would suggest nano. It is much easier to understand, even if it isnt as fast as vi can be. Many distros have it installed, and pretty much all of them should have it in their repos.

    Agility0971 ,
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    Can you tell what distro you are using?

    Blizzard ,

    Mint Cinnamon

    Agility0971 ,
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    The program that asks for password graphically is polkit. As far as I’ve searched online it only supports bypassing password prompts if you’re admin on the system. It does not have a password less prompt like in Windows. I’m using this and this as source in case you want to disable it all together. I’m not a mint user my self so I cannot validate this without spinning up virtual machine. I would recommend the community just look at whatever I wrote for 24h and mention some issues that might occur. I’ll update it if someone points out any issues.

    Open any terminal (sorry) and copy one line at a time into the terminal and hit enter. After the first line you’ll be asked to enter the password. For the consecutive commands password will not be asked. On the last command you’ll open a graphical text editor and make sure certain text is present.

    <pre style="background-color:#ffffff;">
    <span style="color:#323232;">sudo su
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">mkdir -p /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/
    </span><span style="color:#62a35c;">cd</span><span style="color:#323232;"> /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">touch 49-nopasswd_global.rules
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">xdg-open 49-nopasswd_global.rules
    </span>
    

    You should now see a text editor appear with a file opened. Copy this and paste it in the file at the bottom. Then save, close and reboot.

    <pre style="background-color:#ffffff;">
    <span style="color:#323232;">/*
    </span><span style="color:#323232;"> *  https://lemmy.world/comment/1396602
    </span><span style="color:#323232;"> *  Allow members of the wheel group to execute any actions
    </span><span style="color:#323232;"> * without password authentication, similar to "sudo NOPASSWD:"
    </span><span style="color:#323232;"> */
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) {
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">    if (subject.isInGroup("wheel")) {
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">        return polkit.Result.YES;
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">    }
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">});
    </span>
    

    This is a security risk as you might understand, but it’s your computer and you can do whatever you want. If you have any issues just post them here and maybe we’ll figure something out.

    Blizzard ,

    Thank you, will try that!

    The_Shwa ,

    It depends on your distro but there is a NOPASSWORD option in some that you can add to a sudoers file. Without knowing your system its probably best to use your search engine of choice to look for answers to that but be warned that it is a security risk.

    HeavenAndHell ,
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    Why would you want to disable that? It’s there for a very, VERY good security reason.

    Nothus , to linux in What are the main challenges in Linux adoption for New users, and how can it be addressed?
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    Lack of patience and/or unwillingness to learn are what I see as the primary challenges to Linux adoption, and it can be addressed by leaving those kind of people to their own devices.

    Raphael ,
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    tldr: Normies shouldn’t be allowed to use computers.

    Nothus ,
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    Gosh I didn’t realize that all computers use Linux now.

    gamermanh , to memes in I have a theory that the more lore a franchise has, the more of an autistic fanbase it has. I made a graphic about it.
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    To put TF2 so low when it has Abraham Lincoln as the first pyro is a sin

    To put Minecraft above it is a joke of it’s own

    nottheengineer , to linux in What are the main challenges in Linux adoption for New users, and how can it be addressed?

    Nvidia. Within two weeks, their shitty drivers broke my system twice. If I didn’t already know about that beforehand, I would’ve probably quit linux for good after that experience.

    jaykstah ,

    Out of curiosity, did you download the nvidia drivers with the distro’s package manager or did you go to nvidia’s website and do there installer thing? When I had an nvidia card I had plenty of problems over the years but I specifically remember that using the installer from nvidia’s site caused all kinds of hell to break loose haha

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