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Ripuli , to linux in how did you guys land your first job?

Nepotism

OsrsNeedsF2P , to linux in how did you guys land your first job?

Hey so I’ve had a lot of help in life and this is one step I’ve mastered with my friends. I can tell you how to do it, but not everyone has the motivation to follow this. If you don’t, I’m sorry but this won’t work for you.

THE MINDSET

Landing your first job comes from several steps:

  1. You need a good resume
  2. You need a lot of applications
  3. You need to get a lot of interviews
  4. You need to be good at interviews

(Note that 4 is after 3 because your first bunch of interviews will be about practice, not getting the job. It’s free practice!)

THE RESUME

The resume is not a one step process. It’s something that you should redesign and iterate on as time goes by. I personally wrote my resume in LaTeX since it stands out more than the black on white ones. If you to do this, create an account on Overleaf.com and ping me your username, I’ll share you a copy of mine that you can just fill out with your info.

THE APPLICATIONS

This is the most crucial step, and the one people screw up. This is the step that you must listen to what I have to say, and you will get a job.

  1. REGISTER to Indeed.com
  2. FILL OUT your profile
  3. Search "Software Engineer"
  4. ONLY CLICK THE ONES THAT SAY QUICK APPLY

You should be able to apply to a posting in LESS THAN 30 seconds. If you are taking more than 30 seconds, you are doing it wrong.

Why?

  • It’s up to the company to decide if you’re qualified, not you. So don’t read the job posting
  • With ZERO experience, it will take 60-90 applications per interview. At 110 applications an hour, that’s just over 1 interview an hour. You don’t have time to read the posting.
  • If you’re actually good at computers (you’re on c/Linux afterall), this efficiency level shouldn’t be a problem for you

Once you master this step, you’ve almost got your foot in the door and are ready to start your life. If you can’t do this step, I can’t help you.

Note: If you don’t see “Quick Apply” on anything, get a free VPN and change your location to North America. It’s not there for some countries.

THE INTERVIEWS

The interviews are about 2 things:

  • Can this guy communicate?
  • Can this guy code?

THE ORDER OF IMPORTANCE IS AS LISTED. When I ask someone to write an algorithm to find all the prime numbers less than some N and they start making typos in the editor while not talking, I’m not hiring them. If someone writes a brute force O(n^2) solution but talks me through it as they go, they still have a chance.

Let me be clear: If you cannot communicate, I will not hire you even if you have the most optimal solutions.

So how do you communicate?

  • When solving a problem, legit just explain your thought process. The interviewer will know where you are and give you hints too when you do this ;)
  • When answering a behavioural question, tell a story
    • i.e “Tell me about a time you had a successful project, but still weren’t satisfied with the results” you should explain everything from what made you want to start/contribute on the project, to the crux of the problem, and to what you did to make it better in the end
    • Check out this guide on the STAR method if you have a hard time with this (trust me - it works!)

THE OFFERS

When negotiating the offer, note a few things:

  • The salary range for the title in that area
  • If they ask how much you want, give a RANGE - The lowest being the 60k or the bare minimum you’ll accept (whichever is higher, if you think you’re worth less than 60k you’re just wrong), and the highest being 90-100k for your first position
  • Don’t feel pressured to accept your offer right away - you get raises by switching jobs, not doing well; start this early, get multiple offers, and pick the best one

I’m past the point in my life of getting that “first job”, but I’ve been there. You have to understand something: People don’t like being uncomfortable, but your comfort zone won’t get you a job. Do it. You can do it.

SrEstegosaurio , to asklemmy in [Mod] What is your vision for asklemmy?

I think it’s quite cool as it’s now. I like to see this community growing (:

Cloak OP ,
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Thank you for your input!

dessalines , to asklemmy in [Mod] What is your vision for asklemmy?

I support the new rules, and anyone who disobeys gets this treatment : https://c.tenor.com/EXIw9_VVi1sAAAAC/parks-and-rec-we-ban-you.gif.

Seriously tho I like the idea that its advice-focused. My only preference is that ppl ask lemmy support-type questions in other places like !lemmy_support.

Cloak OP ,
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This is a wonderful thought, I have updated the rules to include a note about that

k0sm0naut , to asklemmy in [Mod] What is your vision for asklemmy?

I prefer the story based original idea. I think that advice should be a different community.

majestix , to asklemmy in [Mod] What is your vision for asklemmy?

I like it to be advice based but for more open ended questions. Not really specific questions for a specific topic. More like FOSS and everything technology and this lemmy.

leanleft , to asklemmy in [Mod] What is your vision for asklemmy?
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unrelated but i propose that you change the icon. it makes it look like we all have no clue. i would suggest a megaphone with waves or something (to represent a broadcast). or something. idk. thats just my opinion.

relate to the original topic:
i see what you’re saying. it’s like /c/advice vs a true /c/askXYZ. i don’t have a stance on it. although i hadnt really thought about it too much.

Cloak OP ,
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A mouse with a megaphone?

erioque , to asklemmy in [Mod] What is your vision for asklemmy?

this subreddit.

This is just what you want to say, isn’t it?

I’m so serious! :D

Cloak OP ,
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Ooops, long time reddit user here!

carbon_dated , to asklemmy in [Mod] What is your vision for asklemmy?

I think asklemmy and helpmelemmy (or savemelemmy or helplemmy or advicelemmy or advice or lemmyadvice or lemmingsadvice or soslemmy or ohpleasegodhelpme or ohpleasesomeonehelpme or howwhywhenwhowhatwhichwhere) should be two different sublemmies. The sublemmy asklemmy I think should be more about the general lemmy community on this instance and their experiences and thoughts (ie. be story based).

miguel , to asklemmy in [Mod] What is your vision for asklemmy?

rule idea:

  • Do not repeat topics/questions (make sure that the (topic/question) has already been addressed in the community.)
marmulak , to asklemmy in [Mod] What is your vision for asklemmy?
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I think people can ask anything

yxzi , to asklemmy in [Mod] What is your vision for asklemmy?

I’d say asklemmy for every question that doesn’t fit in any other category (existing community) without much thinking, or not in any other somewhat popular community at least

aexiruch , to selfhost in Do you guys use some management software for your server or just have a lot of docker containers?
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Professionally I am an “Architect” and not much involved in system config (anymore), what I describe below is how I do things for my own, private, servers: Not a big fan of docker, it too often means “cobbled together by a dev not understanding security implications” aka “Institutionalized ‘works on my machine’” (of course there are exceptions!). Generally I like using Ansible, because it feels close to how I learned things (ssh, manually), while still making things reproducible (Infrastructure as Code). But, again, not too big a fan of using other peoples “roles”, because you never know how well they actually understand what they’re doing. I read them for a rough understanding, but usually opt to write my own, based on careful reading of a given software’s config manual.

nutomic , to asklemmy in [Mod] What is your vision for asklemmy?
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The current rules look good, expect for “Legal under US law”, that should go. We have a code of conduct for the site, so there is no reason to refer to the laws of some random country.

Cloak OP ,
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Patched.

nutomic ,
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Thanks :)

SupportTransPeople , to asklemmy in Do you think the fediverse has become a save space for radicals?

yes, “free/libre” software usually attracts nazis, especially gpl licenses. that’s why lemmy should start using an ethical open source license and get serious about getting rid of right-wingers

Halce ,
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Not really. GPL is a left wing license. It literally enforces cooperation, and collaboration, which’re communal values, rather than individualism.

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