It affects those who don't want their votes visible and for random stranger to track their activities. That's why this is better as an opt in for those who want them and have them be invisible for those who don't want to share it. Think of how you can set your Youtube playlists like favourites to private or unlisted.
I think it is fine, since likes on twitter have been public. People just need to change their habits on upvoting and downvoting that they got used to when they were on reddit. So need to adjust to how people would go and downvote whatever comment they disliked and move on. Now that stuff is public, so maybe it can help against brigading?
I'm more concerned about the more toxic people having access to the names and profiles of people who downvote them. Reddit had a lot of crazies, and it seems like a good tool for targeted harassment. Not to mention, what's stopping them from having alt accounts on different instances and continuing even after they've been blocked or even banned on one account?
That is valid. It’s part of why I wanted to make people know about how upvoting and downvoting works so they can be more mindful about how they use it.
Anyone can stand up their own instance, subscribe to remote communities, and start receiving all the data necessary to show those communities. That includes posts, comments, and votes too.
Every instance operator is in control of a database containing all the activity for communities that instance’s users are subscribed to. They can do whatever they like with that data. That’s a consequence of how federation works.
The protocol as it stands today is also generally vulnerable to any malicious instance. A malicious Lemmy server could emit spam, send out bogus votes, or alter its users’ comments after the fact (ahem, spez) and disseminate the modified versions. The main tool that other instances have to deal with a malicious instance is … yup, defederating.
Ultimately, other federated services in Internet history have adopted different ways to deal with this problem:
IRC doesn’t have a single federation; it has many federations (“IRC networks”), and server operators form peering relationships with one another based on mutual trust and agreement to uphold various rules. A given chat channel only exists on a single IRC network; you can’t reach Libera.chat’s #linux from a DALnet server. And occasionally a federation completely blows up — see e.g. the 2021 collapse of the Freenode network due to admin abuse.
Usenet pretty much floundered on spam mitigation because well-behaved servers didn’t eject the malicious and ill-maintained ones.
Email has dozens or hundreds of different ways of dealing with bad instances (i.e. mail servers that emit spam), including published blocklists of known offenders’ IP addresses. But even then, major mail servers depend on all manner of filters (including ML classifiers these days!) on top of straight IP blocking.
i dont want to use too many resources on other servers. i can afford to host my own for me and a few friends and i used reddit enough so i figure ill get good value out of it idk
If you’re from somewhere not covered in this thread and inexplicably wish to speak to your neighbours, try just chucking your city name or whatever into lemmyverse.net/communities
I like the idea but we are not ready at all for something like that. It’d be crazy to blow our load too early and draw a bunch of media attention here only for people to come here and find it unusable. If redditors are struggling this much to migrate, the general public has no chance.
I can remember all too well how it went for the r/antiwork mod who was interviewed by Fox. Anything Lemmy does needs to be very deliberately planned by people who know what to say and not to say.
Bit of a longer TLDR including context, I’ll call it a TLDDD (too long, didn’t deep dive):
Doreen was a moderator of /r/antiwork, she went on Fox News to present the subreddit and why it was so interesting to so many. This wasn’t agreed upon by the community or the other moderators.
Fox immediately tried to frame it as people just sucking off the teat of “corporate america” and not wanting to work. In reaction to this, Doreen failed to actually make any arguments that a Fox News viewer would understand and even played directly into the propagandist’s hands by using out of context philosophies like “laziness is a virtue” and saying that she worked as a dog walker.
On top of this, Doreen was incredibly unpresentable in the video and looked like your average, basement-dwelling netizen, sitting in a dimly lit room with a 2010s webcam. For the right-wingers at fox, she was the perfect image of what they imagine leftists to be like:
Trans
Autistic
Socialist
Unkempt
No “real” job (dog walker)
Here’s a screenshot from the interview to give you an idea of what I mean by unkempt and unpresentable
I deleted the other comment first, when I realized I didn’t reply to the comment asking for more info, and then posted this. Perhaps something fucky with how lemmy served the page to you or deleted the post?
Oh shit, my bad. I’m almost certain it’s because we are on lemmy.ml, this server has been having issues. Sometimes my comments don’t show up for hours.
Your other comment still appears for me now, undeleted with 3 upvotes. But if I go to feddit.de I can see it’s been deleted.
I should have just let you handle it, woops.
I wonder if you can see my other comment on this thread where I uploaded the video itself? Maybe that hasn’t loaded for everyone yet, although it was posted over an hour ago
Not even walker. They just had to mind the dogs, but they got fired from that job because they were sleeping on the job, then were bewildered that they got fired.
To really blow your mind, the Moon is slowly moving away, but will never escape. Eventually both the Earth and the Moon will become tidally locked to each other at which point the Moon will no longer move further away. This assumes no outside influences and enough time.
Try recreating that spin with a fidget spinner and slowly turn it around like the moon turns to face earth. You’ll find that it wants to turn in a way where it spins around the same axis it’s orbiting.
Since the moon has no hand preventing it from doing that, it aligns its spin with the orbit, so the forces described in the article bring that rotation to a halt.
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