This is all kinda blind speculation and there will be a formal report eventually, but as a general outline:
-When carbon fiber fails, it tends to fail spectacularly: completely and suddenly. So you can think of it not as "crushing a tin can" but more "smashing a glass lightbulb, but from all sides at once".
-If we randomly assume they were halfway down (no idea on where they actually were but as a blind guess 50% is a good starting point) that's about 200 atm of pressure. 1atm = ~15 psi, so thats about 3,000 psi. For comparison, a typical firehose is roughly 100 psi. And that can do serious damage to people: if a badly threaded cover pops off a charged hydrant, there is enough force behind that to break bones. If you were sitting next to the hydrant it'd hit you faster than you could react - you'd only know it after you'd been hit. The water outside the sub is at 30x that pressure.
-Lets assume just as an arbitrary approximation that in the first instant of the carbon fiber failing catastrophically, an area roughly equivalent to a 3ft diameter circle fails (it probably actually fails by buckling in a line then milliseconds later splitting and shattering, but we're just approximating). This means that the water that flows through is pushed by 30x as much pressure as a firehose, and that pressure is coming in across 200 times as much area as a firehose (which are typically 2.5in diameter), so there are basically 200 of those 30x-power-firehoses coming through at once.
-A 2.5in firehose will do ~300 gpm. 6000 firehoses would be 1.8 million gpm. The internal volume of a 2m diameter/4m long cylinder is about 2,500 gal. That would be completely full of water in 0.001 seconds. Of course in reality water doesn't hit full speed instantly, fluid flow is far more complex than just multiplying through like this, etc. But this just drives home that we're talking very very small fractions of a second.
-Yes, compression = heating and when its super fast there isn't much time for heat transfer so its adiabatic: wikipedia has an example under "adiabatic compression" for 10:1 compression going to about 500dec C (in an engine) and this is more like 200:1. But remember that air has low specific heat capacity and also doesn't weigh much. The specific heat capacity of water (i.e. humans, plus those 6,000 firehoses worth of water) is ~4x that of air, and the density is ~1000x as much. So if you have equal volumes of air and person, and you heat the air by 4,000 deg C, that contains roughly enough energy to heat the person by 1 deg C. And also refer back to "there isn't much time for heat transfer". So chances that this actually matters beyond detailed physics calculations are slim.
Bottom line: completely obliterated by the force of so much water under so much pressure. By the time any water entered the sub it should have been over faster than a human could perceive. No explosions or incineration though, just force.
Also, common misconception: pressure alone doesn't hurt you. You would not be directly hurt by spending time anywhere from the complete vacuum of space (0atm) to the challenger deep (1,000 atm). Obviously there are other little complications like you can't breath in 0atm and that'll kill you quickly, but the pressure itself won't. Conversely at high pressures oxygen becomes toxic which isn't great for staying alive, but the pressure itself isn't the issue. Very rapid and therefore very violent pressure CHANGE, however, can and will kill you in many horrible ways.
If we randomly assume they were halfway down (no idea on where they actually were but as a blind guess 50% is a good starting point)
The wreck was found 500m away from the wreck of the Titanic, the Titan descends in a curve and not straight downwards, gives pretty good indication that they were near the depth of the ocean floor. Combine that with the fact that they descended faster than anticipated and that they lost communication right around the time they were supposed to reach the lowet point, I think they were close to the ocean floor.
Other people have said the same, but Apollo was my most used App on my phone.
I find that during the day, I mainly browse Reddit on my phone, as I can’t stand not having RES on my work laptop. I’ll have to see what sort of adjustments I’ll have to make, as I was looking at using both Reddit (via browser on my laptop) and Lemmy (via wefwef on my phone) whilst the lemmy community gains a bit more traction.
Doesn’t take long to get over that redd slut. I’ve been here on .world since 1.21k total users on the 9th. I haven’t touched old redd ever since. Every time I see results show up in a search, it’s like an annoying text message after leaving that cheating whore. Ive got more self-respect than any fool that responds to such nonsense. Once a cheating whore; always a cheating whore, as far as I am concerned. Welcome to the next chapter of the internet.
I’m wearin’ myself a T-shirt That says “The world is my ashtray” Our hearts pump dust And our hair’s all gray And I just got a message that says “Yeah, hell has frozen over” I got a phone call from the Lord sayin’ “Hey, boy, get a sweater, right now!”
Jeff Gerstmann has a solo podcast now and it’s really good for just general video came news/reviews and the latest in energy drink rankings. I’ve been a fan since the early Giant Bomb days and he still has the same energy he ever did.
If you don’t recognize the name, he was the one that got fired from Gamespot back in the day for giving a game an average score when the publisher was advertising on the site. Loads of integrity.
Piggybacking off that, Nextlander is a great pod/crew as well. It’s composed of 3 other folks that split off of Giantbomb. They have a good chemistry after 15+ years of working together and being in the industry. One word of caution, they’re 40 something dudes, so it’s a little more mellow than a lot of gaming personalities and prone to some pretty funny tangents that are not gaming related.
I gotta start listening to more Nextlander, but I don’t have the time in my week for all the podcasts coming out. I wish they’d guest on each other’s shows, I yearn for that Endurance Run Jeff and Vinny energy.
Vinny is clutch with everybody. I think he low-key is the best gaming journalist out there. Never steals the spotlight and “yes, and’s” with the best of em. Nextlander is one of my weekly must listens. I am so happy they found their footing after the split.
Also, Alex just bought a house and I am so ready for the “Vinny coaches someone through the basics of homeownership moments” he’s a goddamn treasure.
Really enjoyed this episode! Wasn’t quite sure where it was going at first but just went along for the ride and ended up really liking it. Refreshing to see a good temporal mechanics Star Trek episode again.
I’m not 100% sold on new Kirk yet but I also don’t dislike him either. It’s kind of surprising given how well Ethan Peck fits as Spock, I would have thought that Kirk’s casting would be equally spot on.
Still, curious to see where this goes, definitely loving the ride!
I feel like he fits the like... platonic ideal of Kirk, but he's not doing a William Shatner impression the same way that Peck is doing a Leonard Nimoy impression.
He's doing his own interpretation of the same character on the page.
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