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halfempty , (edited ) to world in No tritium found in fish one month after Fukushima water release
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Sample size is critical to get a realistic result of the tritium toxicity. In this case, they sampled only 64 fish! That would not yield a statistically significant result!

osarusan ,

Samples of local fish have been collected at two points within a 5-km radius of the discharge outlet, except during rough weather conditions, with the agency announcing its analysis results on an almost daily basis since Aug. 26.

No tritium was detected in 64 fish, which included flounder and six other species, collected since Aug. 8.

I mean... you could have read the article.

Alto ,
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But then they wouldn't be able to bitch!

voiceofchris ,
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I mean, you are correct, it was not two fish. But is 64 fish some sort of good sample size?
Follow up question: does this type of thing accumulate in small fish and then concentrate in larger and larger fish?

sethboy66 ,

I mean, you are correct, it was not two fish. But is 64 fish some sort of good sample size?

Given the results, it is significant.

Follow up question: does this type of thing accumulate in small fish and then concentrate in larger and larger fish?

No, tritium is treated by organisms just like normal H2O, bioaccumulation is no problem.

osarusan ,

I don't know the answers to those questions, as I am not a nuclear scientist. But the nuclear scientists seem to think so.

In any case, I think those are good questions. Those are the kind of good questions we get when people read the articles.

Alto ,
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I love when people tell on themselves for not knowing a thing about statistics.

Yes, it's more than enough.

FlyingSquid ,
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What number, in specific, would be a sample size you would accept?

BolexForSoup ,
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they only sampled two fish!

Source?

saltedFish ,

Read the article again, moron

halfempty ,
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From the ORIGINAL article, before the 9/26 edit: "Tritium was not detected in the latest sample of two olive flounders caught Sunday, the Fisheries Agency said on its website." Here is a link to the pre-edit article saying 2 fish: https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2023/09/c798a431682e-no-tritium-found-in-fish-1-month-after-fukushima-water-release.html

zephyreks , to world in No tritium found in fish one month after Fukushima water release

People have been far more concerned about the efficacy of the ALPS system at extracting other contaminants than they are about tritium contamination. The ALPS system is unproven and the wastewater they’re releasing would be pretty toxic as far as other radioactive isotopes is concerned if the ALPS system isn’t doing it’s job perfectly.

dangblingus , to world in No tritium found in fish one month after Fukushima water release

Cool! So let’s ramp up disposing of radioactive material into the ocean because this one fish is ok!

Scrof , to world in No tritium found in fish one month after Fukushima water release

Unsurprising.

supercriticalcheese ,

in other news water is wet

set_secret , to world in No tritium found in fish one month after Fukushima water release

they did however find an absolute fuck tonne of microplastics.

luckyhunter , to world in No tritium found in fish one month after Fukushima water release

Fantastic news! so many people are so afraid of the word “nuclear”, and don’t understand how large of a volume the ocean is. the lethal dose of Fentanyl is like the size of a grain of rice. Put all of the known legal and illegal volume of fentanyl into the ocean and it would be undetectable.

FrostbyteIX , to world in No tritium found in fish one month after Fukushima water release
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I for one would like to try this “nuclear fish”…preferably crumbed, deep fried and doused in lemon juice. With a serve of fries.

mufasio , to world in No tritium found in fish one month after Fukushima water release

I’ll trust the nuclear scientists that say that the release is safe, but there should be a transparent international panel, including China which has concerns about the release into fishing waters, that is given access to conduct their own tests with all parties agreeing to release their findings.

0110010001100010 ,
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The old “trust but verify” position. Agreed 100%. If everything is perfectly safe there should be no reason not to have multiple independent, third-parties with no skin in the game to verify. This is good for everyone as it reassures the fishermen, those buying fish, and really the rest of the world.

Turkey_Titty_city ,

china is causing a fuss for political gain. a huge chunk of their fishing practices are illegal and violates international law anyway. their concern is theatrics to drum up their anti-japanese nationalism.

parpol ,

Not only that, but China’s Fuqing power plant also releases 3 times more tritium into the Pacific than the Fukushima plant so they’re also full of shit.

InvertedParallax ,

I’m not doubting you at all, but can you provide a link for emphasis?

roguetrick ,

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2023/08/8388ba8002bb-tritium-at-13-china-monitoring-points-above-fukushima-water-level.html

It's a pressurized water plant like Fukishima was. Not quite 3x but still more than 2. Qinshan is a CANDU reactor, so that's why its 10 times more than what they're annually releasing from Fukishma. They release a lot of tritium because they use heavy water as a moderator. Any nuke plant that has a Lithium channel for producing tritium for nuclear weapons will also, of course, release a lot of it comparatively.

InvertedParallax ,

Thank you for the link.

Candu are designed to be messy, but the Canadians keep them clean(ish) somehow, never understood how, guess they just watched how much enrichment waste they burned, or they were just careful in reclaiming the tritium, it’s expensive after all.

Bitrot ,
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Is somebody preventing them from catching and testing fish?

roguetrick , to world in No tritium found in fish one month after Fukushima water release

If their reporting of the quantity of tritium is accurate, India's candu style plants release more incidentally than this will.

chaogomu ,

Which is what the experts have been saying since the beginning, but the anti-nuclear propagandists explicitly ignore the experts.

SpaceCowboy , to world in No tritium found in fish one month after Fukushima water release
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Probably because the octopuses used it all for their science experiments. It’s a scientific fact that octopuses hoard tritium. Source: Spider-man 2.

Rhaedas , to news in Japan pharma startup developing world-first drug to grow new teeth
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It wasn't clear if this drug would promote new "buds" to develop and then grow, or if it relies on existing dormant buds to have an effect.

Ryantific_theory ,

Yeah, or if it’s at all targeted, or affects the entire mouth. If they can get a missing tooth or two to regrow, that would help a lot of people. If you start getting teeth sprouting up everywhere that need to be surgically removed, that would be a lot less universally applicable.

Same for whether it only works once, or if it develops new buds. Gotta say, it would be nice to make it to grave with a full set of teeth, since people losing their teeth has a huge impact on their quality of life.

Dicska , (edited )

“I see you have a dead root up there. Please sit back and I will just pop all your teeth out, and then this stuff will regrow all of them in no time.”

EDIT: As bad as it sounds, I would go for it unironically. Not just because my mouth is a mess, but also because my teeth grew out quite jammed, and a factory reset may solve that.

Kanzar ,

The last time this photo was shared, the associated pages noted they had artificially induced agenesis, then used this drug to restart development. It’s why the drug’s first trials would be, as you suspected, on people where dormant buds did not progress.

CrimeDad , to world in No tritium found in fish one month after Fukushima water release

That’s right.

Fedizen , to news in Japan pharma startup developing world-first drug to grow new teeth

The trial for kids without teeth looks interesting. The pathways for adult teeth (re)growth will probably require more than just one drug in humans.

brlemworld ,

Can you grow it on a different species then transplant it to a human?

vsh , to news in Japan pharma startup developing world-first drug to grow new teeth
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Bluetooth

FruitfullyYours , to news in Japan pharma startup developing world-first drug to grow new teeth

From the image it looks like a drug to make you a vampire

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