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stealthnerd , to assholedesign in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

It’s most likely set back to keep it protected. A bit annoying but probably better than having it stick out and be exposed.

Aasikki , to assholedesign in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

Don’t really see the asshole here… Mildly annoying maybe.

Kecessa , to assholedesign in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

All this mess could have been prevented with a little bit of cardboard between the drain and the exhaust, you realise that I hope.

luthis OP ,

Smoldering cardboard doesn’t sound like a good idea.

Kecessa ,

Good luck lighting cardboard on fire with an exhaust

luthis OP ,

All fire needs is heat, oxygen, and fuel. You’ve got all of that there.

The exhaust gets hot enough to burn off oil when it’s idling, so I’m sure it’s hot enough to burn cardboard.

I’m not going to risk it, the tinfoil idea sounds like the goer here.

Kecessa ,

Are you doing your oil change with the engine running or something?

No, it won’t make cardboard catch on fire, just like the oil on it won’t catch on fire if you left it there.

ScreamingFirehawk ,

You don’t normally change oil with the engine running

intensely_human ,

I’m talking about the sparklers I’m using for illumination

nottelling , to assholedesign in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

This is super common with motorcycles. The motor should be warm, but not ignite-the-oil hot during an oil change. Clean it up with some brake cleaner.

Use a piece of aluminum foil to make a little drain to direct the oil over the exhaust.

br3d ,

I know that’s a solution, but as a solution to bad design it’s a little bit “Just wear a rubber glove to stop your oven electrocuting you”. Yeah sure, but maybe design it better?

hi_im_FitcH ,

Do you have any idea how much the manufacturer saved in not extending the pipe tho?

Because I have no clue. Probably wurf rite

nottelling , (edited )

What they actually probably saved was needing to design a whole separate engine case for each bike in their lineup to match all their exhaust configurations.

The idea of having a little pipe protruding out is a different kind of bad design. Things that poke out from engine cases tend to snag or get punched in during a crash, turning what would be some scrapes on the block into a completely totaled engine.

mhz ,

A genuine question if you would like please, I know you meant warm oil for easy maneuvering (oil moves faster when warm/hot), but what about hot oil? Is it safe to change motorcycle oil after an hour or more ride when the oil might be toi hot?

A co-worker of mine tried adding water to his car reservoir after he just stopped from a long ride, the water was near boiling point and it blowed up on him the moment he opened tha water reservoir (not sure that is the correct name). Can such a thing happens with oil exchange?

nottelling ,

Oil doesn’t expand and steam like water, so no that won’t happen, but hot oil leads to very nasty burns and can melt gloves onto your hands. Most bikes run the oil around 200 degrees. So no it isn’t safe to change hot oil. Don’t do that.

intensely_human ,

And, specifically because oil doesn’t boil at those temperatures, it can be at much higher temperature than water can be as a liquid.

We tend to have a mental model of how much damage water can do at its “max” temperature, because liquid water stops existing after a certain temp.

But oil can be so much hotter than that, and still just be a liquid. It’s dangerous in that way, because while a drop of water at near boiling can only do so much damage but a drop of oil can be holding a lot more heat and hence cook a lot more of your flesh before it runs equalizes with the surroundings

luthis OP ,

No, you should just idle the bike until the temp gauge comes up. Should definitely not be after a long ride.

luthis OP ,

Foil is a great idea, I’ll use that next time.

intensely_human ,

Plus people know you mean business when you’ve got some foil.

Guy pulls over his car and brings out the the lug wrench, okay fine. He’s gonna change that tire. Let’s hope he doesn’t forget to chock the wheels, but he’s got the idea.

But you see a dude pullin reynolds wrap out of his bags next to a motorcycle on the off-ramp, that’s a serious dude. That’s the kind of dude you give that dude a burger when he walks by. That’s all I’m sayin.

luthis OP ,

… I’m going to start carrying foil with me.

intensely_human ,

my man

JazzAlien , to assholedesign in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

Not always hot obviously

shiroininja , to assholedesign in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

What kind of motor is this?

Kecessa ,

Motorcycle

nottelling ,

The kind that goes in the motorcycle it’s in.

Sarazil ,
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Looks like the same model I have, a Svartpilen 401.

luthis OP ,

Exactly!

Has the bolt for your shifter fallen out yet?

motsu , to assholedesign in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

Doesn’t help for this (or the next) oil change… But look into a fujimoto drain plug. Its a mini ball valve that is spring loaded (so you have to press the leaver up before you can turn it… Also has a 2nd safety in the form of a plastic clip that prevents it from being pressed up). Makes oil changes so easy. For your bike, it might still be too recessed, but the valve has a hose barb on it too so you can direct the oil into the drain pan

quinkin ,

Fumoto, but yes.

CADmonkey ,

I like the fumoto valves for another reason - if tou have an aluminum oil pan, the valve will keep you from wearing out the threads.

thepianistfroggollum ,

I like not having to have to use a jack to get enough clearance to use a wrench.

thepianistfroggollum ,

I’m 100% buying another fumoto valve when my free oil change plan is up. I never even had to jack up my old car to change its oil.

My one complaint was that without seeing the valve, it’s super hard to remember which way you push and which way to turn. Not fun to figure out when your oil is at highway temps and you’re fumbling around between hot parts with a glove that’s getting hotter and hotter.

But that’s mostly because I’m stubborn.

luthis OP ,

fujimoto drain plug

duuude amazing!

Anonymoose ,
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Seen a lot of complaints about these thing leaking over time in the car communities. No experience myself, but may be something to keep in mind, especially of you end up laying the bike over.

luthis OP ,

I’ve noticed mine is leaking, even though I torqued the drain cap exactly to spec. Maybe it needs a washer or something.

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Probably like weed. Maybe 4chan would be benadryl. Reddit might be spice

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I “get” most of them but why TF is Glovo a part of it, who is addictes to ordering food?

Mercival ,

Well, she did say only a small percent of people will get it.

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What’s a ‘trash can’?

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Brain

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