"No need to waste time with scripts and stuff.", you mean other than learning and knowing what the script does as opposed to hoping the apps' developers are honest, never die, and never sell out.
Not everyone has the time, energy, or even the knowledge needed to understand what the scripts do. I think most internet users don’t even know what is a function and how it looks like, and they don’t want to change after getting home from the 8 or more hour work and still needing to do house chores, buills and whatever.
None of which is relevant to the comment I made. But I contend that the only thing needed to understand scripts and the functions contained is a web browser and the ability to read. I was pointing out that the advice to let someone else do it for you isn't actually safe.
It’s all FOSS. Whoever gets doubts about the devs can check the source or have it checked by experts. They sell out or die? Switch to other frontends or forks. I’d never trust any dev blindly, but if I can choose between these ones and Google… well.
A compiled app is not FOSS unless you compile it yourself, which, shock of shocks, means need to waste time with scripts and stuff. Sorry, but you are making excuses.
Trusting someone for convenience isn’t ideal, but not everyone has the time and resources to audit, compile, and host a dumb frontend for yt. Most of the people here is good enough trusting literally anyone except a big tech company, including FOSS devs, the people who check the code, and public instances of their software. Even considering recent drama (solved by the community btw) I’d trust any FOSS project over google any day.
You don’t like a compiled app differently from source code due to it not being FOSS. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say you would prefer the compilation process to be more easily verifiable for you.
I stated no such thing and a compiled app can only be assumed FOSS, unless you inspected the code prior to compile, there is no way to know for certain what is in it, only what it does.
Do you like a compiled app differently from source code used to generate it? Your previous reply made it seem that is true.
Am I incorrect in thinking that a compiled app can be assumed FOSS when the text “License: GNU General Public License v3.0 or later” is on the page I use to install it, along with a link to www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0-standalone.html
I started discussing your likes and dislikes, as an Internet forum is for conversation. How you choose to engage in that conversation is your choice, but it doesn’t mean a conversation isn’t happening.
The reason replied to you is that I wanted to rebut statements that I consider to be incorrect, and to save other people from taking time to do that and from seeing your comment go unanswered. I don’t really care about your replies other than to accomplish those goals. You may perceive that as being disingenuous (though I suspect your behavior is more related to the fact I have disagreements with you, or some preexisting inclination), but I don’t really care about that.
Assumptions do change people’s behavior, probably in many significant ways every day: “it doesn’t have to be fact to cause people to act”. Perhaps you should spend more time expressing your opinions in a compelling way so that people have more knowledge, and therefore don’t need to hold as many assumptions.
the thread is about as blockers. The post I commented to was about learning scripts or trusting a compiled App. My comment was "easy is a trap". So, no, none of you premise is remotely relevant. My opinion, that you are trusting and not safe when using a compiled app. was the only point I made, the only point I tried to make, and at no point did I make any effort whatsoever to change people's habits. So, kindly keep your assumptions and insistence upon people playing your idiotic game to yourself.
If you’re not trying to change other people’s behavior, what are you doing?
Finding sources you can trust is helpful. For example, I trust the ArchWiki and POSIX.1-2017, and I follow instructions I find there, which helps me accomplish things without having to spend time thinking about the rationale of those instructions (since the instructions have probably been independently reviewed many times, and if there was something wrong with them I’d probably have heard about that). It would probably also be helpful to be able to trust instructions at libretube.dev for similar reasons.
I don’t think keeping my thoughts to myself is a good idea, since I don’t want other people to disrupt my life (unintentionally or intentionally), and giving notice about how I want to spend my life is helpful.
I do think my comments are helpful (and that helpfulness is relevant). If I didn’t think that I wouldn’t be commenting.
Ok then by your own logic you are only allowed to use Linux From Scratch and you also have to compile your browser yourself. You realize that what you are saying doesn’t make any sense at all, right?
Again, you assume things and argue against what I never said. My comment was about easy is a trap. Nothing more. Nothing less. Kindly take your posturing and sit upon it.
Sure, a userscript is one way of solving the issue. But native clients with built-in adblock are another, legitimate way of doing the exact same thing. I really don’t understand your issue with FOSS YouTube clients like FreeTube, NewPipe and LibreTube.
I set my user agent to the Google bot for youtube. It seems to work last time they pulled this shit. The only down side is that it forces desktop view if on mobile.
Just use a Invidious instance. Don’t even bother with YouTube. You can use an RSS feed reader to port your subscriptions, then use a redirection extension to bring you to the invidious version of the channel.
If you’re so inclined, you can download the video using yt-dlp which you can use to download videos from invidious and even pass a sponsor block flag which integrates with the sponsor block api.
On mobile, if you have Android, you can use Tubular. You can request from Google to give you your subscriptions as a fifle that you can upload to these apps. Tubular also uses Sponsor block as well.
Lastly, if you’re on iOS, the best I’ve found is simply to use the Brave browser.
I did have problems using YouTube many months ago, but I tried to watch a few videos each day and after a few days things started working normally again.
God damn, please remove these pesky ?utm_ parameters from your links. They make your links unnecessarily long and your comment becomes pretty annoying to read. You don’t even have to do it yourself, just click on “Copy Link Without Site Tracking” in Firefox. Make it a habit to always use this option. If you don’t want to deal with it at all, install the ClearURLs addon or enable the “AdGuard URL Tracking Protection” list in uBlock Origin.
Those URLs came from about:addons. I think it’s important to provide as much provenance as I can to help people get programs, so I didn’t edit the URL Firefox provided to me.
You can still use Right-click -> Copy Link Without Site Tracking
It’s a built-in feature that was added in Firefox 119 and it removes all kinds of nasty, unnecessary stuff in URLs. 80% of your comment consists of long URLs and you didn’t use new lines so it’s hard to see where the first link ends and the second one begins.
Updating your filter lists in uBlock Origin should fix it. Nevertheless, there are better solution for watching YouTube videos without Google’s crappy ads and trackers. There are private frontends like Piped and Invidious, you can use LibRedirect to automatically redirect all YouTube links to your desired frontend. You can also use a native client like FreeTube on Desktop, LibreTube or Tubular/NewPipe on Android, Yattee with this guide on iOS, iPadOS and tvOS, SmartTube on Android TV or this app if you have an LG TV running webOS.
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