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atrielienz , to technology in CES 2024: Live updates from Hyundai, Samsung, Kia and Sony's big shows

They spying on their drivers less?

Tikiporch , to technology in The best of CES 2024

A TV that doesn’t drastically change UI after a software update would be good.

Merlin404 ,

Ow how the mighty fallen if all we wish for now is it dosent fuck are stuff up after we bought it (me including)

wowbyowen , to technology in The best of CES 2024

Pretty boring year for consumer products so far

kusivittula ,

and if something cool was actually invented, it would only be for spying or pushing ads anyway.

qooqie , to technology in All the big tech layoffs of 2023 and 2024

Can we get a “biggest union for tech workers” in 2024 too? This layoff abuse bullshit for share holders and fat CEO checks needs to fuck right off

ASaltPepper ,

May as well get laid off for something cool if you’re gonna get laid off anyway 😎

tory , to samsung in Samsung debuts the world's first transparent MicroLED screen at CES 2024

Looks like it’s always a little bit transparent even when it should be a solid color. And that means it’s not going to stand toe to toe with a regular TV for regular TV stuff. So… It’s hard to imagine a super solid application for this other than maybe decorative pieces in airports or hotel lobbies or something.

PastyWaterSnake ,

I could see it being useful for dynamic, informative signs like you said in airports. Having transparency could be actually useful, maybe not just a total gimmick, in some areas I’m sure.

Or maybe it’s just another useless, overpriced concept piece that we won’t see for another 20 years

lledrtx ,

It’ll be used for ads. Really intrusive ads… They could put it anywhere (stadiums, sight seeing places etc) since it is transparent but like once every minute, display an ad.

altima_neo , to technology in CES 2024: Live updates from Hyundai, Samsung, Kia and Sony's big shows
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Anything good?

BenjMathis1 OP , (edited )
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Haven't had a ton of free time today to look over everything yet, but the Samsung display stuff I saw was pretty neat. Especially the transparent display. Lenovo also announced a neat 2-in-1 PC/tablet that runs both Windows and Android in their respective modes.

NOT_RICK ,
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Lots of new laptops, nvidia with some incrementally better cards (still obscenely expensive), Samsung has a robot with a projector in it. Nothing mind blowing so far

akrot ,

still obscenely expensive

I thought the prices were fine (4070 Ti Super around 699$). The issue is availability and black market prices will be the issie. Here in EU, you can’t find a 3090 with less than 1.2k.

Fridgeratr , to samsung in Samsung debuts the world's first transparent MicroLED screen at CES 2024

Cool but I definitely don’t see the purpose of a transparent screen. I use a screen to see what’s on it, not what’s behind it. I guess it could maybe make some cool signs or billboards

wahming ,

Once you can make it transparent, you can then layer it for actual 3D

Brickhead92 ,

My first thought was just for marketing purposes, but I like your idea more

Fridgeratr ,

Oh damn I didn’t think of that, that could be pretty cool. Thin enough and you could make a hologram!

Grass ,

Transparent screens are already in use for gimmickly slot machines in casinos

Chobbes ,

It drives me insane when science fiction movies and shows use transparent screens and phones, because like… that’s just a worse product for no reason? Why would you want a transparent phone?

My other pet peeve is holograms that are worse than just like… looking at a screen, or using a projector for a large room of people. Holograms could be cool for certain visualizations, but like… Maybe record a normal video instead of a blurry and pixelated hologram?

AtmaJnana ,

Advertising. It’s for ads.

Mango , to samsung in Samsung debuts the world's first transparent MicroLED screen at CES 2024

Micro LED is the holy grail right?

CraigeryTheKid ,

until picoLED!

Juvyn00b ,

Nanoled!!! I called it!

Hadriscus ,

I guess I’ll be waiting for femtoLED

FlorianSimon , (edited )

Is it smaller or bigger than yoctoLED?

Hadriscus ,

I don’t know

Dudewitbow ,

in concept yes has the per pixel control like oled without the burn in problems of oled, and the brightness of regular leds, and the response rate of oleds.

if it were to still possibly have a flaw, it can still give pwm dizziness if the rate isnt high enough to drive thr display.

preludeofme , to samsung in Samsung debuts the world's first transparent MicroLED screen at CES 2024

Something to think about, how much of the videos you watch have a transparent background? None. Unless it’s content explicitly has been made for transparent tvs. It’s just a gimmick and one that’s like 3d tvs, where the quality of the picture suffers for a mildly interesting experience

greybeard ,

I wouldn’t expect this to take off in homes, but for digital signage it could be very useful. Its still a gimmick, but an eye catching one, which is useful when advertising.

some_designer_dude ,

Also potentially useful in HUD (heads-up display) tech, like in planes and cars. Currently they’re projected onto treated glass but this could yield better contrast?

No super obvious “mainstream” applications that I can think of, but markets find a way…

Death_Equity ,

Eventually it will be thin enough to have multilayered screens which will add additional depth to images which will create a 3D display. Similar to Looking Glass tech. Parallax will be a feature, not an issue for multiple perspectives as with typical glasses free 3D. The effect will be like looking through a window as they stack multiple 4k or greater resolution screens to provide depth/volume.

For automotive use they can put a layer of display on the windscreen to provide an overlay that can be used for AR navigation, displaying road warnings like speed limits, low-light vision enhancements, oncomming headlight dimming, among other capabilities. A layer of per-pixel dimming zones will enhance contrast and address the issue of wash-out without obstructing view.

For a phone with front-facing stereo cameras the display will allow for 3D video calls. I expect there to be phones released that have a see-through display, mostly gimmick early stuff that are basically nothing but an empty bezel ring.

The most immediate and apparent use case is a flex on the poors where your TV just “disappears” when you don’t want the looming presence of the nightmare/fantasy rectangle obstructing your view of the accent wall or art behind it.

Chobbes ,

I expect there to be phones released that have a see-through display, mostly gimmick early stuff that are basically nothing but an empty bezel ring.

Probably not anywhere in the near future, unless we’re talking a huuuuge bezel. You’re phone isn’t exactly empty space inside so you’d either need those to be transparent as well, or you’d need to fit them all one the bezel… so either you’ve got a big bezel or terrible battery life, probably :P. This is all speculation of course. Frankly, I could only really see a company doing it as a publicity stunt because I can’t imagine such a phone would be… good? Cool, yes… But having a transparent display sounds horrible!

Technically there are phones that utilize “transparent” screens right now, for things like under display cameras. So, there’s definitely use cases for the technology, and cool stuff you could do with it, but I’m not convinced you’d want a fully transparent display in a phone. Maybe headsets or glasses or something.

Venat0r ,

It’s definitely a gimmick as a traditional display. It can’t even make proper use of transparent videos: it’s just transparent when the microLED is off, so the darker the pixel colour is, the more transparent.

You can make the transparent channel of a transparent video display as black, but any black parts of the video that aren’t meant to be transparent will end up being transparent anyway.

Is not completely a gimmick though: it could be very useful for a HUD(heads up display) such as in vehicles or in augmented reality HMDs(head mounted displays(AR goggles such as Microsoft hololens and google glass))

tacosanonymous , to samsung in Samsung debuts the world's first transparent MicroLED screen at CES 2024

Now I can watch Netflix while I drive to work!

ShimmeringKoi , to samsung in Samsung debuts the world's first transparent MicroLED screen at CES 2024
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Reminds me of playing around with gmod textures

Kecessa , to samsung in Samsung debuts the world's first transparent MicroLED screen at CES 2024

LTT reviewed a Chinese transparent TV years ago, I’m not even impressed!

Uglyhead ,
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Look at the one LTT reviewed and compare it with this new one. It is quite an improvement.

Kecessa ,

I guess the sarcasm wasn’t obvious 😶

holycrap , to samsung in Samsung debuts the world's first transparent MicroLED screen at CES 2024

Neat. Is it just a novelty or do they have a use case in mind?

SpaceNoodle ,

Just off the top of my head I can imagine HUDs, 3D displays, and smart mirrors.

NaibofTabr ,

Ad displays, guaranteed. Airports, shopping malls, offices, hotels… all those windows? glass doors? room partitions? wasted ad space.

Imagine walking down the frozen section of your grocery store… every door, a display… no longer just looking at the products and deciding what to buy, but now endlessly bombarded with bright flashing animations… Imagine the future.

paraphrand ,

The perfect link.

NaibofTabr ,

That video is from 2016, and every day it looks more and more prescient.

derpgon ,

Reacting to the video, not gonna lie, I kinda dig gamifying life. The street warnings are a nice touch, the “get off” bus feature is nice, making the mall nicer is also welcomed (why spend resources on a nice mall when you can have it virtual?).

But yeah, ads, loyalty point, buying shit just to “feed” a virtual dog. I am getting both good and bad vibes. But knowing humans and greedy corporations, this wouldn’t end well.

SkepticalButOpenMinded ,

It all feels bad to me. What feels oppressive to me is the implication that it’s obligatory, not optional. It’s not your choice. In the reality of that video, you can’t function in society and escape the lights, ads, signs, loyalty points, warnings, suggestions, and on and on. It’s like pop up ads on a dodgy website. People who don’t have your best interest in mind have constructed the environment for you.

derpgon ,

I agree with your view, but I’d say it does not feel obligatory, but rather that when not using it, you are at a disadvantage. Like WeChat. Sure, it is not required, but you won’t be able to text your friends, you won’t be able to send money, you won’t be able to pay. But guess what, the platform makes enough money to pay the companies to require it, which makes them more money, which brings more people to the platform - and enshittifycation begins.

It really is a good video.

SkepticalButOpenMinded ,

If you don’t mind jail, physical injury, lack of employment, inability to pay for shopping, or, as you mention, online social exclusion, sure many things are not “obligatory”. Almost nothing is “obligatory” in the sense that you can’t physically move your body to do otherwise. “Obligatory” usually means that, if you don’t do the thing, you’ll face unsavory consequences. The person in the video clearly did not like the life they were living.

Yes, it’s really excellent.

derpgon ,

After all, the only obligatory thing for every human, without exception, is death.

NaibofTabr ,

Technically, you could live in the modern world without a computer, smartphone or regular access to the internet.

Realistically, you will be essentially unbanked, have trouble filing job applications or even searching for jobs, be basically unable to check your credit report or freeze your credit or otherwise protect yourself from identity fraud, struggle to file your taxes manually and otherwise have poor access to government services, and have a very difficult time searching for an apartment/home to rent/buy, or filing a mortgage application. If you aren’t a property owner already and/or have a good family support structure, lack of regular internet access makes you more than disadvantaged. I’d say it puts you one bad day away from crippling debt and homelessness.

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  • NaibofTabr ,

    Yeah, I can’t really think of a compelling use case for the home.

    Displays on all your windows? But you know they’d be smart devices that want to connect to the internet so they can throw ads at you… imagine wanting to look out your window and having to watch a 5s ad clip first. Pay a subscription fee for ad-free windows, coming soon to an apartment building near you.

    key ,

    Imagine walking down the frozen section of your grocery store… every door, a display… no longer just looking at the products and deciding what to buy, but now endlessly bombarded with bright flashing animations

    Walgreens started rolling that out 3 or 4 years ago

    SeducingCamel ,

    My friend sent me a video of exactly that in a store by him. Full displays and you can’t see what’s behind the glass since they aren’t transparent displays, absolutely ridiculous

    RIPandTERROR ,
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    The death star will be in range in 5 minutes

    Mango ,

    Shop windows.

    JoMomma , to samsung in Samsung debuts the world's first transparent MicroLED screen at CES 2024

    Me:Woah I want to see it in action!

    Samsung’s 10 second long video not showing anything useful: 👍

    Uglyhead ,
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    Aussiemandeus ,
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    That glare free tv didn’t really get a fair comparison at all to the standard tv

    usualsuspect191 ,

    Oh wow, imagine you’re in the skybox at a stadium and the only windows you have to watch the action keep showing you ads and stupid graphics.

    Uglyhead ,
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    Or the glass at hockey games showing you ads…

    There’s all sorts of fuckery that can be had.

    Also,…some really cool shit can be done that we haven’t probably even thought of yet.

    lud ,

    Could be cool if it tracked the players and overlayed their names, stats, or something like that. Could also be used to show replays and obviously ads.

    can ,

    And we could even overlay the players with the likeness of greats since passed.

    veeesix , to technology in Tesla is recalling 1.62 million vehicles in China over autopilot safety controls
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    There’s got to be another way to describe this than as a “recall”. New buyers seeing the term “recall” could shake their confidence in the EV industry as a whole and needlessly perpetuate the sale of ICE vehicles.

    squiblet ,
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    People said the same thing recently when Tesla was required to do an OTA update in the US. The thing is that while they don’t have to physically work on each vehicle, it’s labeled a recall because it’s a regulatory action that compelled them to do it. Tesla didn’t decide to do these updates on their own - they were directed to do so by the government, first in the US and now in China.

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