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dean , to technology in "Web Environment Integrity" is an all-out attack on the free Internet
pax , to technology in "Web Environment Integrity" is an all-out attack on the free Internet

well, google acts like they own the web, they don’t, so they try to make it happen, and make it their next malware seeder…

t3rmit3 , to technology in "Web Environment Integrity" is an all-out attack on the free Internet

Welp, back to IRC and Usenet I guess…

melroy , to technology in "Web Environment Integrity" is an all-out attack on the free Internet
@melroy@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Indeed leave Google Chrome all together yesterday already. Install Firefox

DeForrest_McCoy , to technology in "Web Environment Integrity" is an all-out attack on the free Internet

Uninstall all google apps and CHROME… get Firefox…done. How many times will i have to say it before people start to understand.

Boozilla ,
@Boozilla@beehaw.org avatar

That will work for now. But the open web is under attack.

More and more content is being locked inside of apps, pay walls, etc. Google search sucks because they only show you paid promoted content. Thus WEI bullshit is just another step in the direction of taking away free and open access. If this shit is left unchecked, mainstream websites will stop working with open web browsers like Firefox.

Their goal is to charge fees and subscriptions for everything. And to take away freedom of choice and open access. They don’t want to compete with value or quality content. They want to remove our ability to even use the competition.

RandoCalrandian ,
@RandoCalrandian@kbin.social avatar

It’s probably only a matter of time before popular forums lock down even view access to everything except Google, forcing people to use and work with monopolies and shutting out smaller player permanently

AceFuzzLord ,

At that point we start Web 2.0 (or whatever version) where we get any and all the smart people to switch over to our new web. Hell, we could even start it on something like I2P. I’m more than willing to ditch the current web for the smaller community that we could create if it means giving a big “FUCK YOU!” to gøøgl€.

Or better yet, we could start it now rather than wait for the downfall of the normie web.

ConsciousCode ,

Network effects. The “we” you’re referring to could only be like 100 million at most, the vast majority of people don’t have the technical know-how to switch, or to articulate exactly why they feel miserable every time they log in for their daily fix.

t3rmit3 ,

Sounds like it’s a good time to set up a Jellyfin server with your music and movies, and a Kavita server with comics and books! Yo ho ho!.. I wonder how many of my friends I can get back onto IRC? :D

frog ,

If this shit is left unchecked, mainstream websites will stop working with open web browsers like Firefox.

It’s not like we’re far away from that now. While most sites work with Firefox, I still have to use Edge on a regular basis because some sites just don’t work on Firefox, and somehow we’ve reached a point where Edge is the lesser evil because the other choice is Chrome. And I recently discovered a website that won’t work on Firefox or Edge, and as it wasn’t a website that I had a choice about using (needed to use it to respond to a letter from a government body), there was no choice but to install Chrome.

BautAufWasEuchAufbaut ,
@BautAufWasEuchAufbaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I would assume saying words only gets you so far. One side has money, power and people’s attention, the other the good arguments.
I have the feeling situations like these are common and go a certain way.

SkyNTP ,

There’s power in organizing and voting with your wallet collectively. Reject companies that trample your customer needs and convince others to do the same.

RandoCalrandian , to technology in "Web Environment Integrity" is an all-out attack on the free Internet
@RandoCalrandian@kbin.social avatar

The author is right: there is no legitimate justification for WEI

This entire project is to ensure people cant have control of their own systems, because they may act in a way contrary to googles interests (or the governments, or any other party)

beejjorgensen , to technology in "Web Environment Integrity" is an all-out attack on the free Internet
@beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Potential Microsoft power play if this happens: ban Chrome from Office 365 and gain a pile of market share in a day. 😅

spudwart ,
blarp , to technology in "Web Environment Integrity" is an all-out attack on the free Internet
@blarp@lemmy.ml avatar

google fanboys be like ooh but that new pixel tho

USSEthernet ,

They’ve been trash phones since the 4. My wife and i had the 3s and they were great phones.

My wife has been through both the 6 and 7 now and is constantly having issues with the hardware and some minor issues with the software. Phones overheating and shutting off just from browsing the web, poor battery life, screen completely dying, apps like spotify and facebook just not loading or crashing, the phone freezing up and not accepting any screen or button input, the phone calling 911 by itself.

I didn’t hear great things about the 5 either. But it seems like their marketing department knows what it’s doing because the 8 sounds like it’s getting rave reviews yet again.

I’m hoping fairphone brings their new phone to the US.

blarp ,
@blarp@lemmy.ml avatar

Thank you for this

artaxthehappyhorse ,
@artaxthehappyhorse@lemmy.ml avatar

Still babying my 8 y/o oneplus w/aux port. still not settling

beejjorgensen ,
@beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

This is a bummer to hear since I have the 4A and it’s out of support. (Google support terms suck, especially since the phone is still going strong.) I was going to buy a used 6 or 7–but that sounds like not a super-great plan. Or maybe… GrapheneOS?

USSEthernet , (edited )

I can’t speak to GrapheneOS since I’ve never tried it.

I will say that my son has the 6a, and I don’t recall him complaining about it. My wife had the 6 from when it came out until the 7 came out and we traded that thing in as fast as we could because of the issues, but the 7 ended up doing the same things.

I’m still rocking my S21+ from 2ish years ago and it’s going strong. I hate the bloat, but it wasn’t as bad as I heard Samsung can be. I couldn’t tell you anything about the S22 or S23 generations.

It just seems like smartphone innovation has become stagnant. I’m hoping for the new fairphone due to the repairability. I dont want to buy the fairphone 4 due to it being over 2 years old already. I’ve found that I don’t need some beefy top of the line phone for what I use phones for. In fact, it seems like phones are having issues being actual phones now. In the past year, just trying to make calls has been horrible. I can’t believe how bad it’s gotten. I have so many dropped calls or poor reception, but my phone will show 4+ bars with 5G and will still stream music and do GPS navigation without issue. But make a phone call, nope, the primary function it’s supposed to have, it just says fuck you.

1984 , to technology in "Web Environment Integrity" is an all-out attack on the free Internet
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This has been posted many times already, that’s why its not being so upvoted now. But yeah, it will destroy the internet and put the control over what devices are allowed in the hands of current big tech mafia.

They can make sure you are not using Linux, that you have specific plugins disabled or enabled, etc. It removes the user choice over computer and browser choice we have today when visiting the websites with WEI enabled.

All Google needs to do is to give WEI sites a high search engine ranking, saying they are more secure, and all big web sites will enable it.

beejjorgensen , to technology in "Web Environment Integrity" is an all-out attack on the free Internet
@beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Amen. This was what stopped me from paying Google anything. Canceled premium, moved off drive, off Gmail. It’s unethical to give them money or watch their ads. The company needs to fail.

intrepid ,

They’re too big to fail. Any amount of fine anyone can slap on them is just peanuts for them. They would rather break the law and use part of the gains to battle it out in court and push their opponents to bankruptcy. They have so much money that they can’t help but spend it on subjugating the rule of law.

They have to be broken up. Broken up into a hundred different companies and spread around the world with restrictions on interacting with each other.

beejjorgensen ,
@beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I agree. Even though they’re just going to reconglomerate like Terminator 2/AT&T, we need to keep smashing them before they ruin it all.

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