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Cmot_Dibbler , to news in Spotify raises premium subscription price for millions
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Sorry for the bad place link but I’m just going to drop this here and walk away. Whistles inconspicuously

themeatbridge ,

Is this the sort of thing that will get me blacklisted by Spotify?

octobob ,

I’ve never heard of that happening.

Been using them for years

Cmot_Dibbler ,
@Cmot_Dibbler@lemmy.world avatar

I guess if you’re worried about that use a burner email. I’d suggest Proton, very easy to make a new account. No personal information required.

But I’ve been using it on Android problem free for quite some time and never heard of anything like that.

_sideffect , to worldnews in Helicopter finds missing toddler in soybean field

Found Waldo

jeffw , to worldnews in Spain's conservatives miss out on all-out victory as left celebrates
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

That’s just insane that the far right took a hit after polls showing them growing in popularity

maporita OP ,

It’s insane that a country which suffered so much under a fascist dictatorship would want to return fascists to power.

jeffw ,
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

As soon as people who remember it start dying off, the fascist apologists start coming out.

It’s like how anti-vax can grow because nobody in the young generations met anyone with polio.

massive_bereavement ,
@massive_bereavement@kbin.social avatar

Also I think that nostalgia works in a way where we remember more good times than hardships; humans are good adapting to any bullshit situation to the point we can call it comfortable and finally we look kindly to the past because old people remember mostly being young and healthy above all (despite not making this link mentally).

That's why everyone has this nostalgia for their youth, not because the 60s or 80s where a good time.

jeffw ,
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

Sure, like how white conservatives in the USA want life to be like the 1950s

MaxVoltage ,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

conservatives in the states want to return to 1850

Chainweasel ,

DeSantis is already pushing propaganda in Florida schools about how much better black people had it as slaves. I’d be shocked if they didn’t try to repeal the 13th amendment by the end of the decade.

fidodo ,

“wasn’t the world so much better back before we ruined everything for everyone? Why can’t we go back to those times?”

LiamMayfair ,

Making short-sighted decisions to obtain results quickly is just human nature.

Fascists, populists and demagogues exploit this flaw in human nature to rise up. They promise big things using big words to masses of people who are uneducated, jaded, or both.

Some people in Spain, like in many other countries right now (USA, Greece, Italy…) are turning to fascism because they feel squeezed dry and let down (unemployment, Covid economic hangover, inflation, etc.) by their current governments, so they run to the people sat in the opposite (or most extreme) end of the political spectrum hoping they can turn things around.

With such a simplistic, binary mindset, coupled with a younger generation of voters who have not experienced what it’s like to live in a fascist country, it’s no wonder fascism and belligerent nationalism is gaining traction in the West. I just hope we can turn things around before more European countries follow on Hungary’s steps.

modulus ,

It’s not primarily the younger voters going fash though. Otherwise I mostly agree with your comment.

jalda ,

I am not familiar with the demographics of other countries, but in Spain, Vox is quite popular amongst the young people. Old people tend to be very loyal to “their” party and keep voting PP, even though they agree with Vox’s main talking points.

LiamMayfair ,

The younger voters are indeed pushing fascism, at least in Spain. I had also assumed ultraconservative, nationalist movements would be more popular with the older demographic in Spain but, proving my point that it’s those who didn’t experience Franco’s dictatorship who are buying into the far-right ideals, Vox voters are on average 8 years younger than voters of other parties in the country (apologies for the link to Spanish media).

I don’t know if this is any different in other countries but in Spain the people swallowing the fascist pill are very much your archetypical white, privileged, young male.

sneezycat ,
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Which is ironic, because the rights those people have, like unemployment, WILL go away if the far-right wins, and they’ll be worse off.

huojtkeg ,

You are mixing far-right with liberals (less regulation). In Spain there aren’t liberal partys. You can check the group they belong in the EU parlament.

fugepe ,

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  • anewbeginning ,

    If you want to understand why an opposing force gains ground look at what the force in power is doing.

    lilmagpie ,
    @lilmagpie@lemmy.world avatar

    Imagine if Hitler had won. That’s what happened in Spain. Francisco Franco governed for 40 years, till he was too old and sick to keep doing so. He never faced any consequences and died of old age.

    During all those years he indoctrinated the new generations and set a precedent, culturally. So even though more than a hundred thousand people suffered and died under his dictatorship, he still has a lot of supporters that are very vocal about it and his influence still permeates spanish society nowadays. You could look up “franquismo cultural” if you’re interested.

    Zerush ,
    @Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

    Don’t forget the right wing media and almost all politicians of the PP are members of the OPUS, as say, spokesmen of the catholic church.

    Sentinian , to worldnews in Unilever will let Russia employees be conscripted
    PipedLinkBot ,

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    krolden ,
    @krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

    Hell yeah dont see many people who know chumbawamba for anything other than that song on the radio.

    Sentinian ,

    I’m ashamed to say I was one of those people until I saw Danbert Nobacon perform live, which lead me to enjoy the real chumbawamba

    regul , to worldnews in Spain's conservatives miss out on all-out victory as left celebrates

    Are there enough centrists who were elected to inevitably collaborate with the fascists to create a majority?

    massive_bereavement ,
    @massive_bereavement@kbin.social avatar

    Enlightened centrist moment™

    DreamerOfImprobableDreams , (edited )

    Thankfully, enough parties have pledged not to coalition with the far right that it looks like they'll be boxed out of power. Most likely outcome seems to be Sanchez's center-left party allying with further-left parties and regional / secessionist parties to form a minority government.

    Things could still fuck up during coalition negotiations, but for now I'm cautiously optimistic. Probably the best possible outcome, given the circumstances.

    (Also the far right party lost half its seats in Parliament, lmaoooooooo)

    Zerush ,
    @Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

    Not so much, these are only had changed to the PP, almost the same crap. 20 less in one side and 20 more on the other. Luckily they have not achieved an absolute majority, this would have catapulted us to the 70s.

    gary_host_laptop ,
    @gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml avatar

    Enlightened centrist: What is my purpose?
    Rick: You collaborate with the fascists.
    Enlightened centrist: Oh my god

    gary_host_laptop , to worldnews in Spain's conservatives miss out on all-out victory as left celebrates
    @gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml avatar

    Okay, so Italy, Spain, Finnland, UK and what other European countries are electing fascists? It almost seems like there’s a connection here.

    sirjash ,

    Wait for the next election in Germany, our local fascists are currently polling at 20%

    gary_host_laptop ,
    @gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml avatar

    Is the other party that has more chance of winning a “moderate” fascist flavour?

    sirjash ,

    You mean the equivalent to Spain’s PP, the CDU? They’re “conservatives” (whatever that’s supposed to mean nowadays), but they’ve just announced, that they will cooperate with the Nazis on a “local level” (for now). History is a broken record.

    gary_host_laptop ,
    @gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml avatar

    I meant the German one, but I assume they must be more or less the same.

    modulus , to worldnews in Spain's conservatives miss out on all-out victory as left celebrates

    Thank goodness. But now what? I wonder if we’ll have another election by the end of the year.

    Hoping for the undoubtedly difficult negotiations to yield a left government instead.

    MaxVoltage ,
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    but franco said we were hunting liberals /s

    caudatecoder , to world in Unilever will let Russia employees be conscripted

    you can call it Unaliver

    complacent_jerboa ,

    that’s actually a good one lol

    robocall , to news in Taliban beauty salon ban: Three Afghan women mourn the end of a valued service
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    It mentions that women are already barred from visiting parks. I don’t understand that. Women could take their children to a park and I don’t understand their problem with that.

    MercuryUprising , to world in Unilever will let Russia employees be conscripted

    Unilever has been under pressure to pull out of Russia, but says the situation is “not straightforward”.

    Yes, what makes it complicated is that Hein Schumacher, CEO of Unilever, would get a smaller bonus if he didn’t support an attempted genocide. Just to repeat that for SEO purposes, Hein Schumacher and the board of Unilever support a genocide in Ukraine.

    God_Is_Love , to worldnews in Taliban beauty salon ban: Three Afghan women mourn the end of a valued service

    I’ve heard that everything the Taliban is doing regarding women is to stop them from being able to communicate with each other and therefore being able to meaningfully organize against their rule

    noqturn , to world in Unilever will let Russia employees be conscripted

    While I wish it was easy to condemn Unilever for this, I get it. They have a lot of employees in russia and shuttering operations would have a decidedly negative effect on those people, and it’s not like they can prohibit their employees from taking legally required actions.

    dimath ,

    It’s not about prohibition, no one wants to be drafted and people are hiding from it, it’s about sharing employees details and location with military recruiters.

    noqturn ,

    Genuine question: where in the article is it mentioned that Unilever is sharing those details? I don’t doubt that they are, but I don’t see that here.

    By no means am I defending Unilever here-I consider myself very anti corporate and I don’t think any company should exist that is the size of Unilever, but the real world is less black and white.

    dimath ,

    Aren’t we on Reddit - I didn’t read the article :)

    noqturn ,

    Idk about you but I’m on lemmy

    ivanafterall ,
    @ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

    "Shuttering operations would have a decidedly negative effect on those people"

    Yeah, that's why they're still operating there. It's for the good of the employees.

    awwwyissss ,

    Yeah right.

    noqturn ,

    Zero chance there isn’t corporate greed involved-that’s why all mega corps like this exist. But if they dip, the Russian state would at least attempt to take over the Unilever properties and operate. That would be no better for the workers-possibly worse.

    Gunrigger ,

    I wouldn’t be very happy if my employer decided to send me to war.

    BeardyGrumps ,

    Then why not say every rouble made in Russia will go to humanitarian aid? I’ll tell you why; it’s because they are still making money by being in Russia. It’s corporate greed through and through. These fuckers make no sacrifice until it hurts their bottom line.

    noqturn ,

    Agreed, but the alternative is not much better. Unilever dips, Russia probably tries to take over their properties and make it a state owned venture.

    Alto ,
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    What part of the last year and a half makes you think the Russian government is capable of taking over and smoothly running a business that pulls out.

    noqturn ,

    “Probably tries”. Didn’t say succeed

    Schmeckinger ,

    Then destroy everything in an “accident” and then dip, since its “too costly to rebuild”

    thisisnotcoincedence , to worldnews in Taliban beauty salon ban: Three Afghan women mourn the end of a valued service

    The Taliban really do live with a backwards mentality. A story book shouldn’t define the rights of people.

    expatriado , to news in Taliban beauty salon ban: Three Afghan women mourn the end of a valued service

    they lasted this long?

    Varyk , to worldnews in The 1975 cancels Indonesia and Taiwan shows after Malaysia LGBT row

    I understand Malaysia, but why cancel the Taiwanese show? Is it just because the tour dates won’t fit or is that supposed to be a political move as well?

    Murais ,
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    Taiwan has legalized gay marriage and VERY open LGBTQ+ neighborhoods in its cities.

    The cancelation makes no fucking sense.

    Varyk ,

    That’s what I mean.

    That’s why I was wondering if maybe those are the only places in Asia they were touring and since they canceled the Malaysia they didn’t want to… But they’re already there.

    Yeah it’s weird.

    quicksand ,

    My only guess is that they would hope Taiwan would pressure the other countries to shape up. But that makes no sense based on the culture/religion of Malaysia and Indonesia vs Taiwan so idk

    Varyk ,

    Yeah, that’d be tough. I was thinking maybe they’re just tired or demoralized and near the end of their tour dates, but it is like they have another 40 shows.

    Taiwan is the absolute best!

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