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zen ,

i almost mistook you for @penangkia…

i also see you waited 1 month before making your first comment, so welcome 🙂

zen ,

if you have an account on mastodon, you can follow her there as well

zen ,

according to the lemmy docs, it’s all done in the same way, through the 3 dots button on posts and comments.

however, i think the term used is different: sticky instead of pin. the screenshot on the docs show the 3 dots button on a comment, so no sticky button there. perhaps someone who is actually a moderator here can provide you with screenshots if the 3 dots button for posts (just below the title, in between title and contents) doesn’t work for you.

scheduling on the other hand, is done with a bot, contact @Naomikho for that.

zen ,

we really should see how to get this tag/mention thing working properly, i don’t think your mention of crabby here or my mention of naomi in my other comment in this thread is getting to them…because none of the mentions turned into a clickable link (to their profile page), which is what i usually see in mentions that work

zen ,

they should run their own discord!

zen ,

i think trending in this sense means lots of people have started subscribing to those communities, not that those communities have lots of posts

edit: you are also able to hide communities in user settings

zen ,

for those using ios: getutm.app 🤯

zen ,

sorry, i posted it in hopes of getting some replies from apple users, but i don’t have any apple devices myself.

anyway, since utm is using qemu under the hood, i wonder how easy is it to run plain qemu on ios…

by the way, today’s daily thread is so low traffic!

zen ,

too bad sleeping in works for me sometimes, but not lately…

zen ,

yea, then i’ll need to take a nap in the evening

zen ,

there will be at least 5-10 minutes of downtime for db migrations though (more if the db size is huge). of course, after the long migrations the db size is reported to shrink significantly.

anyway, there’s already been at least 2 easily triggered/discoverable bugs:

  • view context for comments does not work properly (i heard it may even crash jerboa)
  • all software versions in the instances list are displayed as 2.0

hopefully they will release a 0.18.4 quickly with fixes for that.

zen ,

don’t scare our admins 😱

monyet already has a dev instance, so they can import the db from the main instance there, and do the db migrations to see if that’ll succeed.

precautionary measures can be taken on the dev instance so it doesn’t attempt to federate with all the data from here.

i can think of (for testing out db migrations on the dev instance):

  • run lemmy_server with the –disable-scheduled-tasks cli flag, which will prevent background federation tasks from running (so federation events will only be triggered by actual interaction, like posting, voting, subscribing, and of course such things should not be done on the dev instance)
  • if that’s still not enough and we want to be extra sure the dev instance doesn’t federate with data from over here, then just block outgoing http/https connections at the firewall while doing the db migrations try-out (also don’t run lemmy-ui and just watch the docker logs for it to say migrations completed successfully)

i think the lemmy.zip admins said they’re still trying to work out a way to spin a dev instance on a dedicated server, but monyet already has a dev instance, so the db migrations can be tried first to ensure safety.

zen ,

it’s alright 👌

zen ,

that’s interesting. what were you using before macos, and why did you decide to switch?

as for utm, are you running windows or linux on it?

another foss virtualization project for mac that i’ve come across is xhyve, but that doesn’t seem to be receiving updates lately.

zen ,

i’m still seeing 0.18.2. by the way, are you still using lemmy easy deploy on your rpi4?

zen ,

if you are subscribed to lots of communities, it is not surprising.

zen ,

i think every up/down vote federated event is stored in the database for 6 months or something, so it’s probably true that instance owners have access to that info

zen ,

which flavors did you try?

and what problems did you need to troubleshoot (probably graphics cards?)

zen ,

how about gentoo, slackware, pardus, gobo, nixos?

i guess if you game, then linux is mostly out of the question.

zen ,

i am very curious whether nixos does anything differently that would make your graphics experience better, but i wouldn’t be too hopeful

zen ,

@Naomikho @Annoyed_Crabby i have found the issue.

check out monyetbot’s webfinger it points to frank_bot instead of monyetbot, which probably means monyetbot was renamed, and lemmy does not do well with renamed users that still refer to their former name under webfinger.

zen ,

i can’t think of anything else besides the very risky option of editing the db directly, but you’ll probably have to ask the lemmy devs for the correct sql statement that would solve this.

or, as a more temporary option, maybe this could be solved at the webserver level, by redirecting all requests to /u/frank_bot to /u/monyetbot (must take care to distinguish between requests to backend and frontend, both *ends respond to that http request (with different content types)) but that would just involve an nginx expert instead of an sql expert, and i am neither.

zen ,

if you are referring to github.com/db0/pythorhead then you must take care, both this and lemmy-js-client (and the whole lemmy stack itself) is under affero which is a viral license that has been touted as a preventive measure against big tech.

ianal, but i think any network interaction with code derived from those 2 libraries must be placed under the same affero license.

wefwef/voyager was hit by this exact licensing issue.

zen ,

oh that’s nice, may i know what sql statement you used?

anyway, time to upvote everything in this thread so it federates over 🤣

zen , (edited )

i don’t think so. i think what’s important is that it stays under the same license, which means sooner or later you’ll have to disclose source, but i don’t think anyone is going to be so picky as to say you have to do it at the very beginning.

in other words, as long as you are not intentionally withholding source, it should be alright, but again, ianal. anyway, yours is just a hobby project so no need to be so strict about it.

i am just bringing to your attention the nature of the license involved, so maybe if you’re not that comfortable with it, you could look around for a more permissively licensed python lemmy library (if there’s even such a thing, considering the whole lemmy stack is already under the same license).

zen ,

luckily we caught this early before monyetbot had a lot of posts. anyway, i think what’s even more important is the keypair in the db, so it is good the problems monyetbot had were not related to that.

by the way, you may want to do a sql dump and search if there’s any other reference to frank_bot that can be updated. i heard lemmy 0.18.3 (out last night) has quite a bit of db optimizations, so don’t want any outdated reference to cause issues with that.

zen ,

okay, anyway maybe there’ll be a lemmy 0.18.4 soon.

they’re finding all sorts of bugs including a duplicate comment bug, and another one that makes the lemmy version in the instances list become 2.0 instead of 0.18.x.

i wonder if someone was dreaming about an early lemmy 2.0, lol.

zen ,

just wondering, is it the lemmy bot?

zen ,

is it in typescript? do you have any intention of releasing the code?

zen , (edited )

you’re accessing the lemmy db directly instead of using the lemmy api? (or on second reading, perhaps your code uses its own separate db to keep track of things?)

zen ,

you could just git push it to a new repo, unless it is not git, or maybe your organization has something that prevents that.

zen ,

if you haven’t come across it already, maybe you’ll find blog.emojipedia.org/emoji-zwj-sequences-three-let… interesting

zen ,

i just realized this week in the fediverse has been about name change after name change:

  1. calckey -> firefish, so lots of instances that had calckey in domain name changed their names
  2. firefish has a trademark issue, so probably some of those instances that changed names to firefish are doing so again, firefish software itself gets a fork called iceshrimp
  3. .ml gov decides to take back their country code, so any fediverse instance there will have to change name, one of the biggest would be lemmy.ml (has anyone heard what’s the latest on this one?)
zen ,

wow, an instance specially for fountain pens

zen ,

saw that you’re using nitter for the link 🙂

just wondering if you remembered that from my mention of it, or if someone else in your fediverse timeline has also mentioned it

zen , (edited )

there’s farside.link that I mentioned a while ago. taking your link as an example: farside.link/twitter.com/…/1683334798541230080 (so something like twitter.com/NoelHasFeathers becomes farside.link/twitter.com/NoelHasFeathers), every time you click on the farside link it randomly chooses a different nitter instance for you

edit: farside also works with lots of other things too, including reddit, youtube, imgur, imdb, tiktok, quora, medium…even wikipedia

zen ,

10th july was the day monyet.cc turned federation off for protection against the xss bug, so when the mods unpinned that day’s daily thread at the end of the day, the action was not federated.

probably a solution would be to repin and then unpin it again, but if that doesn’t work, maybe you’ll need to see if the admins of lemmy.zip can help you.

zen ,

did the lemmy backend just crash?

zen ,

no problem 👌

zen ,

that’s an interesting backstory, thanks for sharing it with me

hopefully this will all be over soon, and the devs can go back to making firefish/iceshrimp/whatever a good and worthwhile fork

edit: btw, do you know if the “soapbox” they mentioned is soapbox.pub? do you have any idea what was so offensive that soapbox did that merely hosting your code on their gitlab can be used as a point in an argument?

zen ,

Just wish I have enough technical acumen to play around and spin an instance whichever software it is.

I on the other hand wish I had the monetary resources to spin an instance, because I think the *keys will need twice (or more) the amount of ram lemmy needs. (from what I remember, dcx said monyet.cc has 2gb of ram.)

zen ,

fundraiser means you’ll probably also find someone more qualified to set an instance up for you 😝 (because you’d surely want the fundraiser to have wide publicity, and that in turn will get you the people who are like…one-click bam tada! installed (I’m not there yet 😎))

zen ,

🤹

zen ,

maybe you can share the phone brand, so we can all avoid it 🤔

zen ,

get well soon

zen ,

or we could start a simple list of links in git, something like this, which should give you some motivation to learn git 🦾

zen , (edited )

well there are wikis, but that may be a bit overkill, and there aren’t many free wiki hosters left nowadays.

perhaps more suitable would be collaborative editing/note-taking platforms. there are the open source ones like etherpad and hedgedoc, where you can choose (or even self-host) your own instance (here’s the public instance list for etherpad and hedgedoc). there’s also notion, which I think the admin team here uses, so you can probably ask them for more information, but that’s a centralized platform.

edit: by the way, what resources are you using to learn git? I enjoyed reading this, and found it helpful (it helps that at least one of the examples they use is a story writing one, and the software itself is more interactive out-of-the-box than git) even though it is not exactly git (but still in the same category; windows and macosx binaries available at official site in case you find it interesting).

edit 2: anyway, I feel distributed version control is still best learnt collaboratively (it was invented to solve such a problem anyway), so if you ever get bored of typing commands into the terminal, let me know.

zen ,

just trying to guess which one’s non-fiction…I see hay house which is a mind-body-spirit publisher, so that’s probably non-fiction…but the others?

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