Streamwave

Streamwave , 27 minutes ago to world in Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is killed in Iran by an alleged Israeli strike, threatening escalation

Just to be clear then:

Are you claiming that the Jewish governing party, made up of Jewish individuals, in the Jewish State (Israel) are incapable of holding back their bloodlust to slaughter non-Jewish children on the basis that they see them as lesser than Jewish children?

Take a moment. Think about it. Because we both know that this is in fact what you have been claiming. And maybe you want to walk that back, and self-reflect, and think whether maybe you’ve gone wrong at some point in your justifiable attempt to seek justice for oppressed peoples.

Streamwave , 37 minutes ago to world in Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is killed in Iran by an alleged Israeli strike, threatening escalation

Did you mean to reply to my comment? Not sure how that’s relevant.

Anyway, you endorse a 1,500 year old antisemitic conspiracy theory, so I’m not sure why you think you deserve to be treated with respect or dignity.

Streamwave , 38 minutes ago to world in Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is killed in Iran by an alleged Israeli strike, threatening escalation

I think we can all agree that the Jews and only the Jews have the right to determine what that phrase, which they coined, meant to them.

Streamwave , 2 hours ago to world in Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is killed in Iran by an alleged Israeli strike, threatening escalation

Everyone rational has always believed this.

By openly identifying your endorsement of an ancient and false antisemitic trope, you’ve invalidated your right to have any opinion about anything.

Bye.

Streamwave , 2 hours ago to world in Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is killed in Iran by an alleged Israeli strike, threatening escalation

Let me give you the full sentence:

“Never again will the Jewish people put their safety and security in the hands of non-Jews.”

Non-Jews were given a test with the Holocaust and we comprehensively failed.

From now on, the Jewish people will only ever trust themselves to protect them. Rightly so, in my view.

And yes, I do deny there’s a genocide in Gaza. If they wanted to just eradicate them then this war would have been over many months ago.

Streamwave , 2 hours ago to casualuk in As an ex Redditor..

Aside from the points made so far:

Expect it to be overwhelmingly very left-wing and radically progressive on social values.

You will get downvoted for expressing opposing or even skeptical opinions, often brutally. It doesn’t really matter, Lemmy’s ‘Karma’ system doesn’t work like Reddit’s does, but just expect that.

My account is like 12 hours old but I was trying out Lemmy on other servers well over a year ago. Nothing about that has changed.

You might feel similarly to the majority and therefore you’ll have no problem.

If you don’t, eh, well. There we both are.

Also, yeah, post links and create subreddits about stuff you care about. These sorts of alternatives only live if people engage with them.

Streamwave , 2 hours ago to world in Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is killed in Iran by an alleged Israeli strike, threatening escalation

Antisemites have always believed this. This isn’t new. The people who claimed Jews were intent on slaughtering non-Jewish children because they saw them as sub-human did also believe that wholeheartedly. It wasn’t just a ruse.

Streamwave , 2 hours ago to world in Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is killed in Iran by an alleged Israeli strike, threatening escalation

If I believed that Israel was a genocidal “regime” (by which you mean democratic government) I wouldn’t be defending it.

Streamwave , 2 hours ago to world in Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is killed in Iran by an alleged Israeli strike, threatening escalation

A holocaust is happening today perpetrated by Israel.

Nope, done. Not having that level of antisemitism.

Goodbye.

Streamwave , 3 hours ago to world in Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is killed in Iran by an alleged Israeli strike, threatening escalation

You don’t know many Jewish people and the others have chosen not to interact with you.

My guess is that you said and did nothing for your Jewish neighbours and classmates and colleagues and friends on October 8th. I’m guessing you also said nothing when crowds gathered outside Sydney Opera House to chant “gas the Jews”.

Jews have an intuitive sense of who would help them if the Holocaust happened again. People who didn’t speak out in those days? They went on the “don’t rely on them to hide us in their basement” list.

Streamwave , 3 hours ago to world in Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is killed in Iran by an alleged Israeli strike, threatening escalation

I assume you’re going to go through the next few years very confused why Jews are scared of you.

Streamwave , 3 hours ago to world in Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is killed in Iran by an alleged Israeli strike, threatening escalation

lemmy.world/c/jewish doesn’t even appear in your screenshot for starters, so it’s obvious you’re not seeing a full list of results.

81 subscribers

Okay, cool, that’s good to know.

What does /c/Jewish think about the idea of abolishing the State of Israel? Do they agree with you about antisemitism? Have you tried engaging with them about that?

But more importantly, Jewish people are under no obligation to make a Lemmy community and post about their religion, just as any one else isn’t. An absence of such community does not reflect an absence of followers.

It does in fact reflect an absence of followers. Jews do not feel welcome or safe among radical leftists, who tend to dominate Lemmy. They therefore stay away.

Also, here’s a comparison:

https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/3d1e1aa2-9144-49c9-beb9-d271cfb81fc4.webp

You don’t genuinely think that there’s no problem here? Most Jews don’t move from Reddit to Lemmy because Lemmy is dominated by left-wing people, and left-wing people are the current threat to Jews.

Streamwave , 3 hours ago to world in Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is killed in Iran by an alleged Israeli strike, threatening escalation

Uhuh

https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/319050cd-9074-4dc9-bbcf-d46908d95e8e.webp

What do you even mean by “support Israel”?

There are almost no Jews anywhere in the world who would oppose the existence of the State of Israel. As I just pointed out, an overwhelming majority of British and American Jews see Israel as a central part of their Jewish identity, have visited, have relatives there, and feel an emotional connection to it.

Naturei Karta are a tiny fringe minority. If you’re thinking they represent some sort of larger phenomenon you’re living in a bubble.

Streamwave , 4 hours ago to world in Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is killed in Iran by an alleged Israeli strike, threatening escalation

No wonder Lemmy is a Jew-free, Judenrein website with people like you dominating it.

Streamwave , 4 hours ago to world in Is Ismail Haniyeh's assassination a setback for Israel-Hamas peace talks?

It is notoriously hard to find non-radicalized folks after repeatedly dropping bombs on their homes.

Sure. It was hard after WW2 with Germany and Japan. America literally nuked two Japanese cities, more or less wiping them from the map, killing hundreds of thousands of civilians, many orders of times greater than have been killed in this defensive war by Israel.

But we managed to do it.

We did in fact succeed in both countries in deradicalising them and now they’re both thriving democracies.

If that was genuinely Isreal’s aim they would be limiting their intervention to targeted strikes or utilizing the Palestinian social apparatus to try and secure custody of the most extreme Hamas members… they’d also be rabidly going after any Isreali settlers threatening the peace process.

This would only be true if you had literally zero clue about the extent of Hamas’ physical embeddedness within the infrastructure of Gaza. They’ve had 17 years to turn the entire strip into a deathtrap. Particularly easy to do that when they don’t care about Palestinian civilians. They’re all just ‘martyrs’, as Haniyeh agreed.

Does Israel want a Palestinian state? No, not really. Especially not after October 7th. But it was willing to go along with that in the 1990s after the First Intifada made its point with dignity. In December 2000, they accepted President Clinton’s offer to the Palestinians of a two-state solution, with a Palestinian state with a capital in East Jerusalem, some minor landswaps for the largest WB settlements, Palestinian airspace sovereignty, shared custody over the Temple Mount, etc.

The response was that Arafat walked away and launched the Second Intifada, a multi-year onslaught of wave after wave of suicide bombers, mass shootings, driving vehicles into crowds, bombing restaurants, and slaughtering schoolchildren. The Palestinians also had the distinction of inventing an entirely unprecedented form of terrorism: they pioneered the use of children as suicide bombers.

The Israeli left, which had pinned its colours to the ‘land for peace’ strategy which had worked with Egypt (Sinai) and Jordan, has never recovered from the Palestinian Second Intifada. The Intifada only ended when Israel created the walls and security checkpoints across and around the West Bank, the same thing which Palestinians today so hate. Well, guess what, maybe you should have made better choices…

So does Israel today want a Palestinian state? No. Why would they? They offered one in 2000 and got wave after wave of suicide bombers. They pulled out of Gaza unilaterally in 2005 and gave the Palestinians a democratic election. They elected Hamas, which culminated in October 7th, the single worst slaughter of Jews since the Holocaust. You’ve got the West Bank where the PA and UNRWA teach children how to count and do geometry by talking about firing rockets at Tel Aviv.

In a future scenario where the Palestinians were willing to live in peace next to Israel? Many Israelis would still say yes. But nobody in Israel thinks that’s ever going to be the actual scenario, and if they did then October 7th more or less decided that one for them.