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MrSaturn OP , to startrek in Is the Federation "Communist" or Socialist?
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That’s a really good point, actually

MrSaturn OP , to startrek in Is the Federation "Communist" or Socialist?
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I’m pretty sure all those ancient societies didn’t have universal human rights and civil liberties. The concept of rights doesn’t really begin until the 1600s afaik and universal rights until the 1800s at the earliest. There are non liberal societies right now, they’re all dictatorships with no freedoms, hence my statement

MrSaturn OP , to startrek in Is the Federation "Communist" or Socialist?
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Yeah I agree

MrSaturn OP , to startrek in Is the Federation "Communist" or Socialist?
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Do you mean dictatorship? Most ppl use it in the way I mean, as the vast majority are not Marxists.

MrSaturn OP , to startrek in Is the Federation "Communist" or Socialist?
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Well there are non Marxist socialist/communist models and systems but I take your point. I was just answering you because you responded to why I’m not a communist, that’s all

MrSaturn OP , to startrek in Is the Federation "Communist" or Socialist?
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Well an interesting question would be, could the government just seize his restaurant in the name of the good of society? If not, then it’s private property as we understand it, no? Whether it makes money or not

MrSaturn OP , to startrek in Is the Federation "Communist" or Socialist?
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Because I’m not a Marxist? Um ok lol

MrSaturn OP , to startrek in Is the Federation "Communist" or Socialist?
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I mean ppl own businesses, land and houses. Is that not private property?

I can’t think of any societies that emphasize individual rights that aren’t liberal

MrSaturn OP , to startrek in Is the Federation "Communist" or Socialist?
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Yeah the Federation has private property and individual rights, so we wouldn’t that be liberal?

MrSaturn OP , to startrek in Is the Federation "Communist" or Socialist?
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Interesting, he was an actual communist. Had no idea

MrSaturn OP , to startrek in Is the Federation "Communist" or Socialist?
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Will do

MrSaturn OP , to startrek in Is the Federation "Communist" or Socialist?
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I’m not a Marxist so don’t agree

MrSaturn OP , to startrek in Is the Federation "Communist" or Socialist?
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Why not?

MrSaturn OP , to startrek in Is the Federation "Communist" or Socialist?
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I thought it meant no laws and no government

MrSaturn OP , to startrek in Is the Federation "Communist" or Socialist?
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Communist states had/have large militaries so I guess that’s not a problem

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