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Discover7343 OP ,

Yes, screen on time is not the best metric to gauge battery life, but it can still be a useful metric to look at.

Discover7343 OP ,

SOT isn’t a great measure, you’d want a continuous power consumption

I agree, there’s so much variability in daily usage patterns, so SOT isn’t a great metric, as I noted in another comment. Still, it can be useful, and that’s why I waited until gathering at least 15 charging cycles per OS so that I can minimize daily variability by increasing the sample size. I also wanted to incorporate idle time in the analysis, but I only tracked idle time for 11 cycles on GOS, so I couldn’t include the idle dimension in the comparison. Plus, my Pixel 8 is my daily driver, so I would have been phone-less for 2 months, which is not realistic.

is this with or without accounts/apps

This is just me using my phone as usual, with all apps and services that I usually use. It would have been more statistically accurate to test out the OSes in a vacuum without anything installed but the bare OS to eliminate confounding variables, but that wouldn’t be representative of what it’s like to actually use both OSes on a daily basis, so I tested both while using both normally as I would.

Keep in mind without Play Services, some apps will maintain their own data sync, which can really hurt battery life

Yes, I also noted the same in my post:

you can use a more strict setup without sandboxed Google Play Services, which may actually decrease battery life due to constantly active web sockets

And I used to get insane battery drain from Signal’s websockets when I was using Lineage without GApps (link), which was one of the biggest reasons for me to use sandboxed Play Services.

My Pixel runs forever without Play Services. I’ve found it to be the single largest consumer on all my phones.

Do you use Signal and other messaging apps on your device? What’s your average SOT?

Discover7343 OP ,

Nothing is blocked from using Play Services on my device. The biggest reason of me using sandboxed Google Play Services was actually to eliminate excessive battery drain from constantly open web sockets, since I also had a terrible experience with battery drain when using Lineage without GApps.

Discover7343 OP ,

That would indeed be the perfect way to test my hypothesis of adaptive battery being responsible for better battery on stock.

But I’m perfectly happy with Graphene now, and I don’t want to go back to stock for a month for more data collection.

But I would love to see some data and testing for the hypothesis if someone else who is on stock is willing to do the work.

Discover7343 OP ,

Dread it, run from it, statistics still arrives ;)

Hope you ace/aced it!

Discover7343 OP ,

Thanks! Yeah, I’m very happy with the battery life on my P8.

It’s initially quite jarring to go back to a 60hz screen after getting used to 120hz, but your eyes adjust pretty quickly. The battery life on my P8 is good enough that I don’t need to make any display sacrifices to get great battery life, which I’m happy with.

Discover7343 OP ,

I feel your pain 1000%. There was a lot to love about the S22, but the battery life alone made the entire device unusable.

The battery anxiety I had when using the phone was terrible.

Discover7343 OP ,

I haven’t switched to it yet, but yes, it’s the biggest reason I got a Pixel 8. Even if I end up not liking the OS (which I doubt), I love all the custom OS options that I have with Pixel phones, so I’ll probably stick to them going forward.

Discover7343 OP ,

I heard the battery life on the P6 is not so great. A 2 day phone is fantastic, and glad your Motorola is one.

Discover7343 OP ,

Shelter is indeed fantastic, but you technically don’t need it if your main purpose is to isolate your work-related apps and snooze them for the weekend. You should be able to just use your phone’s existing Work profile without using Shelter.

The main value add of Shelter is that on top of isolating your apps to a separate sandbox, it allows you to freeze apps you don’t want running in the background and harvesting your data.

Discover7343 ,

Simper dialer seems to meet your requirements.

Note that I read that the Simple Tools suite got acquired by a shady corporation, so you might want to look for an alternative.

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