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PsychedSy ,

The fuck did people think our carrier groups were there for? Hopefully all western nations with hostages are in tunnels saving peeps.

ShroOmeric ,

Yeah I’ll make it easy for the Commandos: those are the ones getting bombed. You’re welcome.

DoomBot5 ,

But other U.S. officials say the Defense Department has dispatched several dozen commandos in recent weeks, in addition to a small team that was in Israel on Oct. 7 conducting previously scheduled training.

People forget that the US commandos are in Israel all the time. That’s where they receive their urban warfare training.

Kbobabob ,

Oh, good. Now America will have a reason to join when these people get killed.

Bipta ,

Hamas already has American hostages...

rafa ,

Democracy and freedom for all!

lettruthout ,

Except for those we don’t like.

To make it easier to mess them up we’ll put nasty labels on them: “insurgents”, “radicals”, “communists” and the ever-popular “terrorists”.

AlmightySnoo OP ,
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So I guess then when we’re calling Hamas “terrorists”, that’s just us putting a “nasty label” on them? So how do you call them? “Freedom fighters”?

DoomBot5 ,

Pretty sure we’re supposed to call them civilians. At least once they’re dead.

moonlit2107 ,

I will be willing to call Hamas a terrorist organization as soon as you recognize Israel as a terrorist organization.

AlmightySnoo OP ,
@AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

I will be willing to call Hamas a terrorist organization as soon as

“as soon as” implying that right now you think they’re merely a “resistance” or “heroes” I guess?

moonlit2107 ,

Yeah. They are. A violent one, but by definition they are. But let’s ignore the international courts declaring Israel’s settlements as illegal, the thousands of Palestinians dead before this conflict started. This happened because those people are savages, ruthless disgusting terrorist bastards who can’t stand their houses demolished, their kids shot, burned alive, chemically attacked. They should have shut up, stayed quiet and stuck with the peaceful protests, that we shot at anyways. Why couldn’t they just held hands and sung we shall overcome as the bombs rained down on them.

And the West Bank, well we’ll just forget it exists since we can’t pin it on Hamas.

AlmightySnoo OP ,
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Yeah. They are.

Thank you for your honesty I guess, most antisemites dodge that one

moonlit2107 , (edited )

You have no conscious

Nice edit calling me an anti-semite: I’m Jewish.

AlmightySnoo OP ,
@AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

Nice edit calling me an anti-semite: I’m Jewish.

That’s like saying the MAGAs aren’t white-supremacists just because they have some black people on their side.

moonlit2107 ,

Telling me I’m not a real Jew because I don’t support Israel 👍

AlmightySnoo OP ,
@AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

Notice by the way how your last two comments were merely your own deductions about how you see yourself because I never said any of what you claim in them.

moonlit2107 ,

You called a Jewish person an anti Semite because they do not believe Israel has the right to steal land and slaughter civilians. No where did I mention religion or Jewish people anywhere.

AlmightySnoo OP ,
@AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

You called a Jewish person an anti Semite

Nope, I did say however that antisemites dodge your open Hamas support and justification of their terror acts and thanked you for your honesty. That you concluded something else is entirely on you.

dumdum666 , (edited )

I honestly don’t think that you will find many people in the Fediverse that condone Netanyahu and his right wing cronies in the Israeli government. Criticizing them is done legitimately so and at length. If you don’t see that you probably miss eyes and ears …

To me it looks very much like a leopards ate my face situation unfolding with you. At the Moment you are the useful idiot for Hamas so they might even cheer you on - but that WILL change. Have you ever heard anything about the Jews for Hitler?

AlmightySnoo OP ,
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At the Moment you are the useful idiot for Hamas so they might even cheer you on - but that WILL change. Have you ever heard anything about the Jews for Hitler?

We even have something similar today: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Voices_for_Trump

Riccosuave ,
@Riccosuave@lemmy.world avatar

Have you ever heard anything about the

Lehi (militant group) that actively attempted to align with the Third Reich before and during WWII?

Yeah, the Nationalist, Zionist, Ethno-Supremacist, Crypto-Fascist terrorist organization that was a preeminent force in the formation of the Jewish ethno-religious state of Israel. Oh and by the way, they also went on to form Likud, you know, the far-right political party of which Benjamin Netanyahu is a member.

Yes, that’s right. Israel was partly founded by, and currently controlled by a political movement who learned from and attempted to directly align with Nazi Germany. So, careful where you’re slinging around your jack-boot history unless you want to admit that Israel was created with the support of literal terrorists and fascist sympathizers.

SoleInvictus ,
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Ahhh, the famous “if you criticize Israel you’re an antisemite” argument, proof since Israel’s inception that the person you’re talking to is garbage.

TheFonz ,

Hold on. You can’t have it both ways. When Hamas goes out and slaughters children we don’t get to call them “freedom fighters”. IDF is not free of culpability either but come on.

autotldr Bot ,

This is the best summary I could come up with:

American commandos on the ground in Israel are helping locate the more than 200 hostages seized during Hamas’s surprise cross-border attacks on Oct. 7, the Pentagon’s top special operations policy official said on Tuesday.

“We’re actively helping the Israelis to do a number of things,” Christopher P. Maier, an assistant secretary of defense, told a special operations conference in Washington.

But other U.S. officials say the Defense Department has dispatched several dozen commandos in recent weeks, in addition to a small team that was in Israel on Oct. 7 conducting previously scheduled training.

The U.S. Special Operations forces are not assigned any combatant roles in Israel, but they are talking through with their Israeli counterparts “what is going to be a very complex fight going forward” in Gaza, Mr. Maier said.

In his discussions with his Israeli counterpart, Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin II has stressed the need for careful consideration of how Israeli forces conduct a ground invasion of Gaza, where Hamas maintains an intricate network of tunnels under densely populated areas.

Several Western countries have secretly moved small teams of their own special forces closer to Israel to help with any potential rescue operation and to be nearby to assist in any large-scale evacuations of their citizens from Israel or Lebanon.

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