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generalpotato ,

“We’ve investigated our buddies’ actions and have found them to be not guilty, trust us”

Zaktor ,

Information has since been reported by more objective parties that shows damage more in line with smaller explosives (so this is probably true), but the US lacks credibility on the conflict because no one sees them as a neutral (or even heavily biased) third party willing to challenge Israel. When Biden says he’s “with Israel 100%” and tells diplomats not to call for restraint, that immediately makes the US government just another arm of the messaging war. There is a cost for stating up front you’re all-in on one side.

Similarly, if Israel had a better track record of not lying about their attacks, people would be more willing to believe them when they say “it wasn’t us”. Going all-in all the time may yield short term gain in whatever current media cycle they’re in, but it destroys their credibility in the long term. And since there have been periodic terrorist attacks followed by brutal military responses for my entire lifetime, they probably should have been thinking in the long term.

Zehzin ,
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Actually the cause was Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction.

athos77 ,

Meh, they also said they believed the "decapitated children" thing before retracting it. Give it more time.

Squizzy ,

Let’s believe America when it comes to war crimes and who is at fault for causing a war in the middle East, after all who is more experienced?

Fitik OP ,
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Actually, from the photos of the damage from the place you can see that the damage dealt looks pretty similar to other hits of HAMAS/Islamic Jihad

More pictures there

Fitik OP ,
@Fitik@kbin.social avatar

Actually, from the photos of the damage from the place you can see that the damage dealt looks pretty similar to other hits of HAMAS/Islamic Jihad

More pictures there

Son_of_dad ,

Hamas misfiring and hitting their own is fairly common, and with the escalation, much more common you’d think.

Fitik OP ,
@Fitik@kbin.social avatar

Yes, I know about that, but many don't

There have been a number of examples in past conflicts of misfired Hamas rockets striking Palestinian civilian areas in the Gaza Strip. During the August 2022 flareup between Israel and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad terror group, more than one-fifth of the 1,000 rockets fired toward Israel failed and landed in Gaza, where they caused one-third of the 44 deaths recorded.

anotherlemmyuser ,

Footage and photo presented by IDF piped.video/watch?v=VN5KHmCrLeA

RIP to innocents on both sides, horrible and irreversible catastrophe.

TWeaK ,

Have you got any pictures of other hits to compare it to?

Fitik OP ,
@Fitik@kbin.social avatar

Yes, there's a hit from an Israeli city of Ashkelon
1 photo 2 photo

BraveSirZaphod ,
@BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social avatar

It's indefensible that major news organizations immediately took Hamas at its word and posted headlines like "Israel bombs Gaza hospital killing 500" when this is what seems to have actually happened.

My heart goes out to the victims, however many there were, but journalists have to be better than this.

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